US - Mexico, The Mexican Press

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Pablo Chicago, Aug 18, 2012.

  1. Pablo Chicago

    Pablo Chicago Member+

    Sep 7, 2005
    Sweet Home Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pics and articles from the Mexican press:

    Courtesy of the USMNT Blog:

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    Boos

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    No we can't

    From Esto:
    http://www.oem.com.mx/esto/notas/n2658329.htm

    Terrible - Mexico Made Ridiculous by the United States

    The football party that lived after the conquest of the gold medal at London 2012, was overshadowed by the defeat against United States (1-0) at the Stadium Azteca.

    A painful stumble because we have never lost at home before against the staunch opponent of the North, but there is always a first time. How to end a party!
     
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  2. Pablo Chicago

    Pablo Chicago Member+

    Sep 7, 2005
    Sweet Home Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From Central Deportivo
    The Defeat of Mexico at Stadium Azteca
    For the second time in history the Mexican national team lost to a member of CONCACAF.

    Mexico suffered its ninth defeat at the stadium Azteca, its first to the United States, after the team directed by José Manuel de la Torre fell 1-0 to the stars and the stripes. Most of these losses were friendlies, except the qualifier where Costa Rica won 2-1 on June 16, 2001.

    The first setback occurred on December 8, 1967. The Greens led by Ignacio Trelles could not deal with Hungary that won by a score of 2-0, the same score as the match against Brazil in 1968.

    Italy, in 1969, won 3-2 while Peru beat the Tricolor in 1969. Chile was one of the executioners in 1973 and Spain in 1981. Before dropping tonight, the latest collapse occurred on 5 June 2007, when Paraguay won 1-0 when commanded by Hugo Sánchez.


    Now, "Chepo" will be marked as the first coach to suffer a loss to the United States at home, in the Stadium Azteca where, supposedly, we should be impossible to overcome.
     
  3. Susaeta

    Susaeta BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 3, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Andrés Guardado quotes

    He starts by saying there is not much to reflect on from the game and that the breaks did not go Mexico's way.
     
  4. Editor In Chimp

    Editor In Chimp Member+

    Sep 7, 2008
    I'd say that's a fair assessment of the game.
     
  5. El Michael

    El Michael Member

    Dec 17, 2009
    Club:
    DC United
    OT but when people say the win or loss was only a friendly, they should keep in mind that against Mexico it will always be a notch above a friendly
     
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  6. Susaeta

    Susaeta BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 3, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe, but if I were Mexico I would have left that game with a few questions:
    1. Where was the creativity in the middle? Klinsmann has done a good job of forcing Mexico wide in the two matches the US has played against Mexico. Chepo should be thinking about how he can keep Mexico from being one-dimensional.

    2. Does Mexico stick with Chicharito, or do they go with the more in-form Oribe Peralta? Chicharito had a couple clear opportunities he simply missed and has not been the same player he was in his debut season at Manchester United.

    3. How does Mexico improve against the counter-attack? When it is able to break out, Mexico's defense looks exposed against quicker US players. While the US got one goal, I counted three good opportunities. The goal, the ill-advised Gomez shot where Boyd was wide open centrally, and the Shea cross Boyd barely missed. While the US does not create as many opportunities, the opportunities they do create tend to be good ones.

    I think Mexico would be remiss if they did not reflect a bit more on the match and were to simply excuse away the loss.
     
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  7. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think you are correct, but they can be as remiss as they want - it won't bother me. ;)
     
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  8. shinpath

    shinpath Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Shanghai, PR China
    Club:
    --other--
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  9. Solid444

    Solid444 Member+

    Jun 21, 2003
    Not saying some of these questions are unwarranted, but I would be really skeptical about the level of importance given to these ¨problems¨. This is a terrible Fifa date for several reasons. European players have yet to play a single official game and are still in preseason conditioning form (a lot of these players have not played an official game in 2 months). This is such a bad Fifa date that Fifa is getting rid of it all together and taking into account that Fifa usually sides with the economic aspect, instead of whats best for the players, this says a lot.

    I am also saying this based on experience, had Mexico implemented changes based on last year´s August game, they would have made many mistakes. This would also apply to the US. Based on that game last August, Rogers and Shea should be contributing consistently to this national team, and in reality, they have been completely absent the whole year. I think that in general, people are jumping to too many unwarranted conclusions here.
     
  10. Editor In Chimp

    Editor In Chimp Member+

    Sep 7, 2008
    I think I agree with all of this. Their mids looks like ours did against Antigua in the final third-the way we sunk everyone behind the ball took away their plan A, and they didn't have nearly enough creativity and incision in the final third.

    Hernandez was simply bad-he's clearly in a gigantic dip in form; he missed the two clear chances with his head, and it's hard to give him much credit on that deflected shot-the only reason it was on frame was the deflection; he shanked that wide.

    Finally, Mexico's always been bad against the counter against us, even in 2011.

    Both sides have plenty to learn from as a result of this game.
     
  11. Pablo Chicago

    Pablo Chicago Member+

    Sep 7, 2005
    Sweet Home Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like him too except the Yank always reminds me of a 12 year old Tom Petty.

    Rough translation:
    Guy in Stadium Azteca mouse trap: I swear that trap was for the...
    Olympian: I should have stayed in London
     
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  12. Pablo Chicago

    Pablo Chicago Member+

    Sep 7, 2005
    Sweet Home Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From the day before:

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    Yank: So what? I have 46 of those
    Olympian: Yes, but right now this is the one that burns you
     
  13. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    The translation for that headline is: It can't be.
     
  14. Pablo Chicago

    Pablo Chicago Member+

    Sep 7, 2005
    Sweet Home Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not a play on the chant "Si se puede" which, if not taken literally, is usually translated into English as "Yes we can"? Have Mexican fans been chanting, "meh...if you can" all these years? ;)
     
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  15. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    The guy in mouse trap is saying: I swear the trap was for him.
    nope. It says " it can't be"
    If it was a play on si se puede, they would have wrote "no se pudo" or no we couldn't.
     
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  16. Clenbuterol

    Clenbuterol Red Card

    Aug 25, 2011
    Club:
    --other--
    Mexican press being our best friends again.

    As I said in another thread, God help them if they lose in costa rica.
     
  17. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    How so? The press didn't overreact like you hoped so.no head was being asked for on a platter like some hoped thinking it would cause our manager to get fired. And most importantly this was friendly compared to an official qualifier match. See the difference? Is it no surprise that this thread is barely in its first page? This was an anomaly in the midst of a gold medal feat. If we lose to you guys in Azteca during a qualifier then you can expect those overreactions.
     
  18. Clenbuterol

    Clenbuterol Red Card

    Aug 25, 2011
    Club:
    --other--
    It is reacting pretty much the way I predicted. And as you point out it was a friendly match and they still had headlines and stories depicted in the first few posts of this thread.

    Just can't wait to see what happens if they lose to costa rica.
     
  19. Soccergodlss

    Soccergodlss Member+

    Jun 21, 2004
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Kaiserslautern
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know, it was all over Mexican and American television. Even moreso Mexican, which just goes to show that this is no ordinary friendly.
     
  20. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    mexico has only lost 8 times in 118 games at azteca.

    its a big deal.
     
  21. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    :confused:

    it would have been in the news regardless, what clenbuterol wants its the typical overreaction, meltdown you get from mexispazzos and yellow journalist like yesteryears but it didn't happen. hell most talk about the game, how crappy it was played by both sides, said the US got a win and moved on. if it mattered the game would have sold out and people would not have left after the half time ceremony.
    so why wouldn't it be on mexican channels talking about mexican soccer?
     
  22. Clenbuterol

    Clenbuterol Red Card

    Aug 25, 2011
    Club:
    --other--
    Well, I did not think the media would depict it as Meteorites and Comets are going to destroy the Azteca in an apocalyptic destruction now that the USA won.

    I did expect things like:


    &
     
  23. az2004

    az2004 Member

    Jun 5, 2012
    how many of those 118 we against concacaf teams???

    i'd say the vast majority??

    so 8 loses versus non concacaf sides

    i think this says more about the weakness of CONCACAF..

    non CONCACAF has a far better rexord it seems
     
  24. Solid444

    Solid444 Member+

    Jun 21, 2003
    When you say Mexican television, you must mean channels targeted to a Mexican audience in the U.S. because in Mexico, the game actually got less coverage than your average friendly because everyone was still focused on the reactions and coverage of gold medal team.

    Most Americans do not get the fact that Mexicans in the US give this rivarly A LOT more importance than Mexicans in Mexico. It is very rare for the national team to play at Azteca and the stadium not to be compeltely full or at least at above 85% capacity on a weekday. However, I cant remember the last time that Azteca had less than 60% occupancy for a national team game, even a friendly.
     
  25. Soccergodlss

    Soccergodlss Member+

    Jun 21, 2004
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Kaiserslautern
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well being that I'm not in Mexico and have no sources there, you are correct.
     

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