i don't care one way or another, meaning that i'm not offended personally or generally, but i wonder whether the thread title reference to Creationists as "Still Crazy..." isn't a technical violation of the "rules" of the forum. i understand that it's a reference to a Paul Simon song and the song itself takes a self-deprecating look at the isolation that the narrator has become accustomed to, among the several readings, so the thread reference isn't entirely mean-spirited. but if the shoe were on the other foot...