Upcoming roster moves - help?

Discussion in 'FC Dallas' started by Kevin Lindstrom, Jun 28, 2005.

  1. 3rd Degree

    3rd Degree Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [reality] picks I would think. (second rounder or conditional based on games played?) Clearing Jolley is enough cap.[/reality]

    [fantasy] Jamie Watson. Clears Jolley's cap as Jamie is P40 and there is an open Dev spot on FCD roster.[/fantasy]
     
  2. ZenCarver

    ZenCarver New Member

    May 26, 2003
    Richardson, TX
    Your fantasy is probably aptly named, Buzz...

    Picks would work for me, I suppose.
     
  3. Fougs

    Fougs Member

    May 26, 2004
    Ft. Worth, Texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Absolutely. Rep for you. Plus, if Jolley went to Chivas I'd give him three games before he got cut for playing defense on the back line.
     
  4. Jambon

    Jambon Member

    Mar 3, 2000
    Austin, TX
    I'll give the FO the benefit of the doubt whatever they decide, since all my second guessing this off-season has been proven wrong so far (with the exception of the boneheaded trade of the pick that got Chris Rolfe for Henry Ring). Still, I must say I am concerned at the possiblity of a Rhine/Moor/Goodson/Gbandi or Rhine/Moor/Vanney/Gbandi backline in the event of injury or suspension. I'll just assume they know what they are doing this time.
     
  5. BulaJacket

    BulaJacket Member

    Columbus Crew (hometown), Minnesota United (close ties), Colorado Rapids (now home), Jacksonville Armada (ties)
    United States
    May 9, 2003
    Ashtabula, OH / Denver, CO / MN / Jax
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Umm, I think you've got to wait for better judgement of that...

    "Chicago trades second round pick in 2006 and GK Henry Ring to FC Dallas for 29th pick"

    A 3rd rounder for a second rounder & Ring? That's not a bad deal at all. Dallas just needs to make sure they utilize it correctly.
    And if FCD really wanted Rolfe, they could've picked him instead of Marshall and/or Gomez.

    On a side note, does FCD still own Ring's rights?
     
  6. TexanSoccer06

    TexanSoccer06 New Member

    Send Salyer somewhere he doesn't get shafted and can play. Yea, I said it.
     
  7. 3rd Degree

    3rd Degree Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's good math but I would have taken ROlff in the second round and maybe end of first I liked him that much.

    but I get it in draft math terms.


    Yes
     
  8. BulaJacket

    BulaJacket Member

    Columbus Crew (hometown), Minnesota United (close ties), Colorado Rapids (now home), Jacksonville Armada (ties)
    United States
    May 9, 2003
    Ashtabula, OH / Denver, CO / MN / Jax
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Understand completely...
    The Rolfe factor is put aside, because FCD had plenty of opportunity to draft him.
    And IMO, I think he would've been a good pick too.

    They apparently didn't want him, and the draft math is great.

    And if they use the higher pick to get an even better player, then it is a good trade.

    I'd give CONSIDERABLY more flak for actually not drafting Rolfe, than I would for the trade.
     
  9. Balonpie

    Balonpie Member

    Apr 27, 2004
    Scenic Carrollton
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ... and let us not forget the Posse factor.
     
  10. ihearttheburn

    ihearttheburn New Member

    Jul 26, 2004
    Denton/Plano, Texas
    Gordon... always thinking of his five favorite- well- I guess it'd be eight favorite if you add in his daughters- girls in red. ;)

    Most of the time I get paranoid thinking its Bobby, but this time I don't think it'll be him. He has REALLY stepped up for us with the switch from defense and back, the playing while injured in like- eight million different places and the GOAL from this past Saturday. Jolley has only filled in for Vanney when needed.

    My only question is is it possible for Jolley to have taken a pay cut seeing as he is mostly playing reserves now? If thats the case... I'd see us needing to go after a starter depending on how much Wilson is.
     
  11. txaggie93

    txaggie93 New Member

    Feb 23, 2004
    Fort Worth, TX
  12. terp fan

    terp fan New Member

    Nov 21, 2000
    Agreed, two seasons in a row Phil has done his job and had the starting role taken away because he isn't good enough in the attack while his replacements have struggled to defend. Shouldn't the first requiremnt of a defender be the ability to defend? I think Phil is cheap cover at the RB and is unlikely to be moved unless he requests it and even then it would likely be in the offseason or through expansion. He's a class guy who doesn't complain and just keeps working so I hope things work out for him.
     
  13. BulaJacket

    BulaJacket Member

    Columbus Crew (hometown), Minnesota United (close ties), Colorado Rapids (now home), Jacksonville Armada (ties)
    United States
    May 9, 2003
    Ashtabula, OH / Denver, CO / MN / Jax
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good stuff.
     
  14. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    Not only fantasy. Stripping a team of its only real asset at a position where we're about 5 deep is downright immoral.
     
  15. justscore

    justscore Member

    May 31, 2004
    Southlake
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Phil IMO is a more consistent player than Gbandi, and cheaper. His family is all here and being newly married, I think he would want to stay here as long as he could. He has proven his skills and loyalty to the team with no reward of playing time in return. He is a classy guy and deserves better.
     
  16. misoccer6

    misoccer6 New Member

    Aug 29, 2004
    chapel hill
    From my sources, Watson is very happy at RSL. Check out their website and the guy is everywhere, radio talk shows, personal appearances, etc. I do agree, why would you want to move him further down on the player list (behind 5 other forwards) when he is starting now and getting 90 minutes. Besides, the RSL fans wouldn't go for it. He is a big draw for games. Average crowd even on Wednesday nights is 15,000. Haven't seen FCD drawing in those numbers at games even on weekends.
     
  17. Balonpie

    Balonpie Member

    Apr 27, 2004
    Scenic Carrollton
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Your sources are questioinable and w/ 56 posts to your name, you are very brazen to come here to discuss attendance numbers.
     
  18. jwedding

    jwedding Member

    Jul 21, 2003
    McKinney
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    RSL is
    (1) novel. Novelty wears off, especially when you keep losing.
    (2) an almost monopoly on sporting dollars in SLC right now. Is there another sporting event in town to be had? I honestly don't know, so don't think I'm being fip.

    Don't get too worked up about your attendance until you've been doing it a while. It cycles for everyone.
     
  19. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The one problem with expansion is that we get so many fans who think that MLS history started in 2005.

    On the other hand, you are technically correct. FCD hasn't drawn 15,000 for any game. The Dallas Burn did back in the days when dinosaurs roamed the earth or something like that.
     
  20. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    Come talk to us in 3-4 years, when you actually have some history behind you. Go check the league attendances for 1996 and tell me what you find.
     
  21. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    That's also one of its good points. Some of MLS's more chequered history is completely unknown in the Kingdom of Deseret.
     
  22. ZenCarver

    ZenCarver New Member

    May 26, 2003
    Richardson, TX
    Besides, it'll be fun to gross them out later with tapes of shootouts and backwards-counting clocks...
     
  23. Kevin Lindstrom

    Oct 28, 2003
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good for Jaime.

    But a big draw for Real fans? Weren't they drawing better than that before he started?

    And yeah, real smart talking attendance smack. Talk to us at the end of the year after we've had ten games in our own cozy soccer specific stadium.
     
  24. FeverNova1

    FeverNova1 New Member

    Sep 17, 2004
    Plano
    So you rate the validity of posts by the total number of posts overall? That's pretty scientific in itself. You have no idea who that person is.

    Anyway, keep in mind that SLC has only one other major sports competitor in their market. Yes, it's early to start bragging about attendance but I think it's sad to see one of the top teams in the league with 6,000 on a Sat night. The promotions and media coverage in SLC far surpasses Dallas. HS girls volleyball gets better coverage.
     
  25. Balonpie

    Balonpie Member

    Apr 27, 2004
    Scenic Carrollton
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I do not question the validity of the post I question the validity and the ethics of the poster. He did not mention his sources, thus; they are questionable; furthermore; he made a remark that some may consider inflamatory and absurd particularly in a board other than his. People like he and you and expansion teams need to learn a lesson we all learned as children. "Children need to be quiet and listen, so that you may learn, and speak only when spoken too."
     

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