Up From Mediocrity: Ajax 2023-24

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  1. wynaldaisagod

    wynaldaisagod Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Aug 9, 2019
    Sutalo passed it to RWB there... If he passes to Taylor, it's a 3 on 2. This happens quite a bit in matches and it's maddening.

    Evidently Sutalo is hurt and Kaplan may start next match.
     
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  2. There are rumours L. v. Gaal has set his eyes on bringing in Liverpool assistent of Klopp, Pepijn Lijnders.
    Jan van Halst was spotted 3 days ago in Liverpool.
     
  3. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Lots of rumors about Lijnders who has been highly important to Klopp.
    My question though is why would Van Halst be doing any bidding?
    I thought he’s out at Ajax once Kroes starts which is quite soon I believe.
    There are strong rumors of Ten Hag returning if he’s sacked by United also I’ve been reading.
     
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  4. pfloyd

    pfloyd Member

    Mar 18, 2012
    Varna, Bulgaria
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Why would any person in his right mind want to come to a grossly mismanaged club like current Ajax to coach a team of mediocre players? There is neither money nor glory in this.
     
  5. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I'm sure Kroes has final authority on hiring the next manager. Just lots of rumors right onw. I read a story that Graham Potter, good at Brighton and bad at Chelsea, is interested in the job.
     
  6. BPBlueSox

    BPBlueSox Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Aug 21, 2003
    Georgia
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    #1231 BPBlueSox, Mar 2, 2024
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2024
    We all know it’ll be a Dutchman like Jansen or something who was just at AZ. Maybe Henderson could have some sway vis a vis Potter or something. But I’m not holding my breath. (I’m not anti a Dutchman as manager obviously, just that I wish Ajax would be open to a foreign manager as well)
     
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    Simon Tahamata leaves the club to start an academy in Berlin.
     
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  8. aveslacker

    aveslacker Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Apr 2, 2006
    Old Madras
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, if it were Ten Hag, it would basically be an even swap in this regard. :ROFLMAO:

    There's always someone with enough ego to think they can turn things around and in the case of Ajax, unlike in the case of United or Chelsea, there's a pretty good chance it can happen, given how little parity there is in the Eredivisie.

    AZ drew again, just to toy with us.
     
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  9. BPBlueSox

    BPBlueSox Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Aug 21, 2003
    Georgia
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Pretty decent first half against Utrecht. Could have been different if Lammers kept his head with his one good chance. But still, overall encouraging-ish. Kaplan looked confident on the ball which was a pleasant change from Sutalo.
     
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  10. BPBlueSox

    BPBlueSox Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Aug 21, 2003
    Georgia
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    2-0 in the 76’. Good they put this one away… and it was Taylor who had a cool finish for once!
    (And we just had the token Jansen sighting, too.)
     
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  11. BPBlueSox

    BPBlueSox Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Aug 21, 2003
    Georgia
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    And Ajax has to make it hard on themselves by playing the last ten minutes with ten. Appreciate the defensive intensity by Rensch - but definitely a bit dumb coming flying in with a stomp like he did.
     
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  12. BPBlueSox

    BPBlueSox Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Aug 21, 2003
    Georgia
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    A clean sheet, what the hell is that?! ;)
    First since November 25.
     
  13. Brilliant Oranje

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Mar 4, 2023
    Amsterdam and Marbella
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Boring match, but I'll take the 3 points.
    Kaplan looked good in central D :thumbsup:
     
  14. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Finally a clean sheet!!! Rensch added some drama to what should have been an easy win by recklessly stomping on Lammer's ankle. VAR signaled down for a look and a RC was rightfully given. Another strong match from Brobbey who was MOTM with the match winner and then a nice asssist to a breaking Taylor who slotted home the insurance goal. Ajax looked very comfortable in the new formation which I guess is a 5-2-2-1. Taylor and Hlynsson are not wingers but do move up to press when Utrecht had the ball deep. Mannswerk and Henderson sealed up the deep MF and until going down to 10, the Ajax goal was seldom threatened. One win in the books and 10 more to go as Ajax seek some late redemption in an otherwise horrible season.

    Player Ratings:

    Ramaj (6.5) - didn't have to make an hard saves and did manage the back with some decent kicking
    Goojier (6.5) - no mistakes and did venture forth on a couple of occasions but it looks like the instructions are safety furist
    Rensch (4.5) - was decent until the sending off for a stomp on the ankle
    Kaplan (7) - solid in the middle of the back 3 CBs, great upfield pass to Sosa on the match winner
    Hato (7) - good enough match as the Cal Ripken steak continues
    Sosa (7) - actually a good defensive match!!! very nice pass to Brobbey for the match winner in the first half
    Mannswerk (7) - I counted only one turnover and it's clear he has a much better awareness of the game than Tahirovic
    Henderson (7) - skippered the team and was solid
    Hlynsson (6) - did a workmanlike job but had little opportunity in the attacking half
    Brobbey (8) - utterly dominated whoever tried to defend him, great shot with the left foot for a goal and better assist on the Taylor goal
    Taylor (7.5) - did nothing wrong and got the insurance goal
    Akpom (NR) - on for Brobbey late in the 2nd half but had little impact on the game
    van den Boomen (NR)- on for Mannswerk late
    Medic (NR) - on after the Rensch RC and had a couple of good clearances

    Aston Villa up on Thursday in Amsterdam. I hope this type of solid performance can continue. Fortuna Sittard up next Sunday
     
  15. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Pretty comfortable for Ajax and a shutout?
    Wow!
    Looks ok with the 5-3-2 with better organization, and balance, but the opposition is far from top quality.
    Orange14 covered the key points of Kaplan, Mannsverk, and Brobbey.
    Big one on Thursday!
     
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  16. pfloyd

    pfloyd Member

    Mar 18, 2012
    Varna, Bulgaria
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    With this team I hope it won't be as big as Ajax vs Napoli of 2022.;)
     
  17. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Certainly we do not want to see that.
    Bad news to report that Bergwijn and Berghuis miss out.
    Huge losses for Ajax.
    Perhaps Forbs can do something to exploit the Villa high defensive line.
     
  18. Defense will be the worry, given Aston Villa's high line.
    Clean sheets in Europe are a rarity these days. If the stat I saw is correct, they had only one in 17 matches.
    The defensive shortcomings will have to be compensated for by scoring themselves..
    Brian Brobbey is the one for the goals. Scoring is easy, fifteen, when it's in the Eredivisie. In a European context, this is significantly less easy.
    In the last eleven European appearances at home, the striker has not scored. He last managed to do it against Young Boys in 2021.
     
  19. pfloyd

    pfloyd Member

    Mar 18, 2012
    Varna, Bulgaria
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    In the last couple of months Brobbey is a completely different player compared to 2021-2023. With proper support he can score against AV. The main problem is will he get this support.
     
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  20. Brilliant Oranje

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Mar 4, 2023
    Amsterdam and Marbella
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Off to a good start :thumbsup:
     
  21. wilson00

    wilson00 Member+

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Brobbery same syndrome. Shud have scored. He is not clinical on those good through balls
     
  22. Brilliant Oranje

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Mar 4, 2023
    Amsterdam and Marbella
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    That's the only issue I have with him.
    It always seems to take him 3 chances before he scores a goal.
    But when you play for Oranje you're unlikely to get 3 chances in every game
     
  23. wilson00

    wilson00 Member+

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Well that's the whole point. If you look at zirkzee once he receives the ball in the box with space, he is decisive.

    Not sure though if villa are saving up for game vs spurs in the weekend.4th vs 5th.
     
  24. wilson00

    wilson00 Member+

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Villa is playing 4-4-2. Ajax is enjoying that extra man in midfield.

    Who ever scores wins. 1-0
     
  25. BPBlueSox

    BPBlueSox Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Aug 21, 2003
    Georgia
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Seemed that Villa came out for a 0-0 from the beginning and that if they happened to score, then good for them. Felt like an old fashioned away European tie in their regard.

    shame that Ajax didn’t put home one of the chances (Brobbey or Taylor.). Anyways, Gooijer is no big loss for the return tie in England. And super glad not to lose Brobbey or Hato who were on yellows.

    and how about that Kaplan! Sutalo, who?!
     

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