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  1. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Club: San Diego FC
    Jul 2, 2003
    Fornax Cluster
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Curling and golf. They’re both great for napping.
     
  2. Pønch

    Pønch Saprissista

    Aug 23, 2006
    Donde siempre
    David Lee Roth's Van Halen was better than Sammy Hagar's
     
  3. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Excuse me sir. This is the UNPOPULAR opinions thread.
     
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  4. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Has anyone ever come across a “Sammy Hagar Made Van Halen Better” person.
     
  5. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Hello!




    Do I hold yet another unpopular opinion? :whistling:
     
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  6. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nah, this is an unpopular opinion.

    Muskrat Love is not a bad song. Just that one product of its time band covered it and ruined it. The original is not bad. Classic early 70s folk.
     
  7. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Each had their own plus’s and minus’s. The raw youth and power of Roth and the more mature sound of Hagar.

    I prefer the Roth sound but I appreciate the music from Hagar’s turn.
     
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  8. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Plenty of fine Van Hagar songs. I too prefer the raucous youthful energy of DLR. Hagar ain’t writing Hots For Teacher.
     
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  9. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    The Van Halen songs I learned on guitar were all songs David Lee Roth sung, which should say it all.
     
  10. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    I would describe it similarly. Roth was like an overgrown teenager in a party band. Not my thing. Hagar brought maturity and sophistication, which I prefer. He elevated Van Halen.
     
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  11. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When I'm at a diner, I want a chili dog. If I want a more nuanced, sophisticated meal, I wouldn't be at a diner in the first place.
     
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  12. Val

    Val Moderator
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    Arsenal
    Mar 12, 2004
    MD's Eastern Shore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Try the Silver Diner. There's one in Springfield. That guy has a very nuanced menu and it changes at least twice a year.
     
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  13. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I initially read this as a rather opaque comment on the David Lee Roth/Sammy Hagar debate.
     
  14. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We have one here in eastern PWC as well, just a few miles from my house. Excellent food.

    But if I'm at the 29 Diner in Fairfax, I expect a greasy cholesterol bomb.
     
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  15. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm saying that elevating Van Halen from a party band that happened to feature an iconic, generational talent on guitar kinda misses the point for me.

    But I don't actually have strong feelings on the matter; I was never a huge VH fan and by the time Hager replaced Roth I wasn't really tuned in at all. I don't believe I've ever listened to complete VH album start-to-finish after 1984 so I'd be making a judgement based on radio hits. But when listen to Roth-era VH, I never find myself thinking "Boy, this would be so much better with a more technically accomplished singer over somewhat more sophisticated song structures." I want cool riffs and lots of them; DLR was the MC and that was all he needed to be.
     
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  16. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
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    United States
    #1416 bigredfutbol, Nov 7, 2025
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2025
    Having somewhat pushed back on your POV, I'll now somewhat endorse it--the DLR era had likely very much run it's course and even if he and the VH brothers could have continued to coexist I'm not sure it would have continued to work. Switching singers and moving towards more composition-based rather than riff-based songwriting was probably a necessary evolution to avoid becoming a pale imitation of themselves.

    EDIT: Fixed typo
     
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  17. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This 100%.
     
  18. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
  19. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lionel Richie, not Sammy Hagar.
     
  20. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Got a DLR story. Back when I was still living in LA, the group I played pick up soccer with went to our usual cafe after playing. We usually got some food and a pitcher or two of beer. A couples behind us, sort of in the back of the restaurant, was DLR, alone, looking worn, with two empty pitchers of beer on the table, and being brought a third. We drank a bunch, but nothing close to that.
     
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  21. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Apparently, the younger set assume it's Adele.

    I'm of the "Hello" is Lionel Richie set.
     
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  22. chaski

    chaski Moderator
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    Mar 20, 2000
    redacted
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    Lisburn Distillery FC
    Nat'l Team:
    New Caledonia
    Doors set here

     
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  23. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Raiders lost an Academy award because a bunch of old ladies liked Henry Fonda and gave it to On Golden Pond
     
  24. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not the only action movie that's happened to.Its why I can't with the Oscars anymore.
     
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  25. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Ireland
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    Actually, Chariots of Fire beat out Raiders, On Golden Pond, Reds, and Atlantic City that year. Over 40 years later arguably the best remembered of those is Raiders, with Atlantic City having totally faded from recollection. At least Chariots of Fire had a memorable theme by Vangelis. Speilberg lost to Warren Beatty (Reds) for the director award. On Golden Pond took the best actor (male and female) awards, but Harrison Ford wasn't included.
     
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