Post-match: United States vs Martinique; 7/15/2021

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  1. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are you Knox Harrington the video artist?
     
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  2. YNWA Rob

    YNWA Rob Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Nov 12, 2020
    Indiana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just finished re-watched. I saw nothing to support Busio being rated lower than a 6 (average). I would still give him a 7 for constantly starting the team off in a positive direction. Yes, some of the things he tried didn't come off, but that just illustrates his ambition in possession. His passing is sharp. His set pieces certainly were not horrendous. A high percentage of them went into dangerous positions but nothing came of most of them (not typically his fault).
    I agree Roldan put in a decent shift, especially in attack.,
     
  3. Calling BS

    Calling BS Member+

    Orlando City
    United States
    Jan 25, 2020
    Yes, we are seeing things like Williams will be a problem against better teams and writing him off without even giving him a chance. Also, players should not be written off because of an initial poor performance. Do we remember how poor Dike’s first game was? This is a tournament, let’s let these players play into their stride.
     
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  4. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Flashbacks to the U20 WC when he did that against Columbia IIRC.
     
  5. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #305 TheHoustonHoyaFan, Jul 16, 2021
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2021
    2016 Olympics Q Playoff maybe? Of course Trapp was dreadful in that home and home but ...

    See 2:45 Miazga 3 and Parker 4 were the CBs!

     
  6. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Do we get a cup or something if we field the Youngest National Team Ever?
     
  7. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    Weah, Hoppe, Sargent are all combo CF/wingers. All creative, positive and direct. I cannot say that about those who compete with them for roster spots.
     
  8. randomnoise

    randomnoise Member

    United States
    Mar 26, 2017
    Yes, we do!

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  9. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I believe each roster is for each game — you could theoretically have 69 players across a 3 game window.
     
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  10. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    I don't think we should do it, but it was mentioned we could fly one group of 23 to one spot, and another group of 23 to another
     
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  11. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    im going to make a quick defense of bello for no real reason- maybe not a defense but point out a couple of places hes not getting credit for in a lot of "he didnt do anything" posts.

    on the opener it was bello who got to the endline, drawing the defensive attention before dropping the ball to a completely open hoppe (beautiful cross, textbook finish from dike). thats not nothing.

    and on the second goal it was busio who played a great ball across/back to busio for the rocket off the post (commence bedlam).

    you nerds talk about "mls" assists and being part of the buildup to goals all the time, and theres no reason not to here.

    i have no clue if he can defend at all, it still wasnt a stellar performance i just thought id say he did some good things. he didnt waste any more chances at service than everybodys high school crush busio did with his 40 or 50 corners...

    ok, im gonna go back to not really caring about george bello very much now.
     
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  12. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I don't get the Bello angst. He got in a lot of dangerous areas, but just didn't get the final touch. Shocker, I say, that a guy in his first cap-tying event struggled with a final touch after getting in good spots. My opinion of the game was that Sands performed better than the other CBS (Robinson and Zimmerman), Williamson outplayed his fellow central midfielder Busio, and yes, Bello was better than his comrade Moore on the other side of the field. But that is just me.
     
  13. Bajoro

    Bajoro Member+

    Sep 10, 2000
    The Inland Empire
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Speaking of all those corners... I hope the manager draws up a couple of plays, maybe including some short corners, to take advantage of Dike, Zardes and Zimmerman, even the rather tall Mr. Hoppe. With all those hard-won corners we should have won by an even bigger margin.

    Plus, we're already in Mexico's head dominating the corners in the NL. May as well stay there.
     
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  14. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The scramble play really impresses me as well. That was a play that brought me forward in my chair as I was watching. Not a play that will show up in a stat sheet, but plays like that keep clean sheets and win you matches.
     
  15. nbarbour

    nbarbour Member+

    Jun 19, 2006
    Washington DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nice
     
  16. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    I was also surprised by the few and too many posters who had Busio as one of the worst rated players. I thought he was terrific and close to MOTM. In his first start ever he controlled tempo, never panicked, hit every pass correctly, and even made some difficult passes look easy cutting lines. That's what a modern 6, Pirlo type is suppose to do. I don't know if historically fans only look at DMs to win tackles. These aren't the days of Chris Armas. He has a nice first touch, even with defenders closing, knows how to push the ball away for a few tight, short dribbles and turn to pick out a solid pass. Something Yueill or Acosta can't do. They have to one touch back to CD because their first touch is too poor to be able to turn and pick positive options at 45 degrees or better. Remember Acosta's terrible first touch on a perfect rolling pass where he couldn't keep it near him, so the running Haiti player just ran past him picked up his long first touch and Acosta had to accost him from behind to intentionally pick up a yellow. Busio's soft first touch doesn't allow it. He better start vs Canada because Yueill will struggle with any pressure. It wasn't perfect but it was very good. And I'd pencil him as my backup 6 right now behind Adams. I would love him as a ball controlling late game sub when we're up, or down for a positive possession player pushing it up field. I get he's not a great ball winner but we have better players on the roster for that like Adams, McKennie, and Musah.
     
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  17. YNWA Rob

    YNWA Rob Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Nov 12, 2020
    Indiana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, he's not the old-time windshield wiper for sure.
     
  18. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, I was right, U20 world cup Acosta got a red card, Steffen saved the PK.



    Rubin scored the goal. I'd forgotten that part. I remember the chat thinking we were finished. Lost to Serbia the next round IIRC.
     
  19. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Wayback Machine at https://web.archive.org/web/2013063...tches/round=250464/match=10000022/report.html has the box score for the first leg. Of Barbados's starters, Paul Ifill played three Premier League games for Sheffield United in 2006-2007.
     
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  20. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I remember that play from the year before the Olympics Q. I don't see anything egregious on that play. The attacker was just stronger than Acosta and turned him.
     
  21. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    That's not how you supposed to start a post here. You say "Player X (Busio in this case) sucked. He was the worst player in the game (tournament)". And then echo chamber multiplies this, and it becomes an axiom.
     
  22. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was burned over and over as a fullback that game. Check the PBP, we were all crying about it, that and our lack of strikers. Eventually, someone blows by him again, Acosta grabs his man and pulls him down, this time in the box, and gives up a pen.

    I'm illustrating that Acosta as a fullback has been a failure for years. It's not like he gave up a pen, and nobody's ever seen that before.

    This is not to say that Acosta doesn't have a place on this team. But Acosta at fullback is a bad player. If he's on the roster because of his utility, and not his ability in midfield, then he shouldn't be. Or, that shouldn't be a good defense of his inclusion.
     
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  23. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fair enough. I agree and said as much in the PBP, especially since he was playing with dead legs. I don't believe that Acosta is an international level RB at this point in time but he has proven to be a serviceable emergency LB. His first 4 USMNT caps were at LB IIRC (Iceland, Canada, St Vincy WCQ, and New Zealand) and I don't recall him getting beaten in any unusual manner in those matches.

    Remember the "anyone can play LB" meme occurred in a camp where the #1 LB Fab and the #2 LB El Homie were both injured in camp. El Gringo had to step up as the emergency LB and he was even less defensively capable than Acosta.
     
  24. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was 200 posts behind and didn't bother to catch up this time. Busio was good and showed some weaknesses, but good overall with some exemplary plays in his first start.
     
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  25. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Lucky you.
     
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