PBP: United States v Qatar; 7/29; 7:30pm ET

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by AutoPenalti, Jul 29, 2021.

  1. yankthisyank'swank

    Oct 13, 2010
    Greg telling the 4th official to “******** off” was his best moment so far as the coach because it made me identify with (and thus like) him a little. The same thought was going on in my head as Zardes scored…
     
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  2. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    His first touch has not been an issue since he joined Columbus.
     
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  3. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Never understood giving the 4th official shit. He ain't making any decisions out there.
     
  4. porkrind

    porkrind Member+

    Quakes
    United States
    Sep 27, 2001
    Bostonia
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    lol well no... since you put it that way. It just seemed odd. But yeah, fatigue can do that to you.
     
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  5. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
  6. Bilgediver

    Bilgediver Member+

    LA Galaxy
    Oct 16, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Correction, his first touch on the run has never really been an issue.
    It was his first touch when receiving the ball directly at his feet where its always been suspect.

    Even while at the Galaxy he excelled at getting the ball at pace.
     
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  7. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    I guarantee you it was fatigue. They've barely rotated, they have very little depth, and it was in the 80s with 70% humidity in Texas, and their game is all about pressing and hitting on the counter. You just can't afford to do that without getting a goal for your troubles in the 5th match of a tournament in which you've hardly rotated...
     
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  8. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    GB: “You can’t CONCACAF us!”
    4th ref: “Maybe not tonight”
     
  9. nycfc919

    nycfc919 Member+

    Aug 17, 2015
    Eddie Howe.
     
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  10. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    I've always thought Oscar Parja would be a good NT manager.
     
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  11. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    , but most national teams of a decent level have far more cohension than this team has had. It is not even slightly surprising that the only team they have manage to score against more than once is Martinique. If Berhalter wants to bring a bunch of guys who haven't played together before and it looks like a disjointed mess, that is on him. I don’t fo a second buy this notion that the point of playing in this tournament isn’t to win it. If you want to try random stuff out, that is what friendlies are for. We have lots of those.
     
  12. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    o'zlatan?
     
  13. Bilgediver

    Bilgediver Member+

    LA Galaxy
    Oct 16, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    cute.
    He never played with Zlatan at LA. He was traded for Kamara from Columbus when we bought Zlatan in a 1 for 1 deal. I was happy for him because the LA FO and Coaching Management had been doing him dirty.
     
  14. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006
    The team with the problems will be Mexico.

    1) how are they going to explain the their fans they just switched places in the FIFA rankings with the USA C team?
    2) where will they find the coach to replace Tata for qualifiers?
    3) how will they develop home field advantage for qualifiers with no fans in the stands after another round of fan misbehavior sanctioned by FIFA?
     
  15. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ugh. Canada Concacafed.
     
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  16. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You sure as hell called that one!! :D
     
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  17. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member+

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
    If USA does beat Mexico maybe Atlanta can get Tata back.
     
  18. yankthisyank'swank

    Oct 13, 2010
    Maybe you’re correct about the “decisions” for this evening’s match. I do know that the 4th official oftentimes “serves as the main channel of communication between the referee and the team officials”.

    https://www1.arbitersports.com/Grou...s/FOURTHOFFICIALSummaryofDutiesHandoutPDF.pdf

    Of course, we all know our words will never change an official’s mind, but when tensions are high, a lot of rational thought takes the backseat. So letting the one guy who has direct communication with the center ref know how you feel makes some sense.
    Regarding firing Greg, the guy’s USMNT coaching record is 25-3-6. He isn’t going anywhere until after (hopefully) the 2022 World Cup.
     
  19. yankthisyank'swank

    Oct 13, 2010
    Well if that was the tactic, I’m not sure if it’s “managerial wizardry” or not. I like the idea of coming out and just beating your opponent heads up. I guess in this case, Greg knew his starting 11 were on par with the opponent, but knew his bench was superior.
     
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  20. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    We won.
    That is all that matters to me.


    Now let's do the same against Mexico. Just find a way to lift up the trophy.
    Even if it takes us having 10% possession, bunkering unmercifully and winning on Penalties.


    Just get the job done.
     
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  21. Anto'nio

    Anto'nio Red Card

    Atlanta United
    Sep 11, 2017
    If Mexico do not win on Sunday, I do believe that Tata is a goner.
     
  22. Anto'nio

    Anto'nio Red Card

    Atlanta United
    Sep 11, 2017
    Greece, 2004!
     
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  23. Aconti2

    Aconti2 Member

    Apr 10, 2011
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I left after this comment to actually root for my country's team.

    I'm not saying don't critique or don't have issues. But at this point of the game maybe you could talk about the frustration early side to side and backwards possession we were holding without being able to connect any passes in the final third. You could recognize the space Qatar was exploiting to counter attack. Hell, I don't care if you point out how certain players could be positioned better or should be making better choices.

    Instead it's "Dike can't play soccer" and "X player should never play for us again." Save it for recess.
     
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  24. Bajoro

    Bajoro Member+

    Sep 10, 2000
    The Inland Empire
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with all the above.
     
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  25. Bajoro

    Bajoro Member+

    Sep 10, 2000
    The Inland Empire
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You should get a job with FS1.
     

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