Union cut ties with Gutierrez, Eskandarian

Discussion in 'Philadelphia Union' started by Slaskwroclaw18, Jul 1, 2012.

  1. Slaskwroclaw18

    Jun 26, 2011
    Philadelphia, PA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. SmashtheVan

    SmashtheVan Member+

    Jan 13, 2009
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow. Totally didn't see that coming. I guess they're really trying to distance themselves from the Nowak era. I really liked Gutierrez and hoped they'd keep him on...
     
  3. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So I guess that means if Hack doesn't continue a stunning turn around, he'll also get axed in the off-season. I mean, the writing has to be on the wall here. Hack was hired by Nowak too.
     
  4. Slaskwroclaw18

    Jun 26, 2011
    Philadelphia, PA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think that would be the case. I think if Hackworth has a respectable season he will be held on to. As a supporter when I really don't associate Hackworth with Nowak but I do when I think about Gutierrez and Eskandarian. But I wonder if Hackworth had anything to do with this decision?
     
  5. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sometimes you notice little things, but don't think much of them. I saw how Aleko changed his Twitter avatar over the weekend, no longer using the one showing him in a Union warm-up. Hmmm.
     
  6. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    This could also be the case of Hackworth wanting his own guys on his staff, and not Nowak's. These guys may be loyal to Nowak, and Hackworth may not have seen eye-to-eye with them. Plus, when a new head coach comes in, there's always going to be some turnover. Truth be told, I think this is the front office's way of removing the interim tag and saying to Hackworth, "We like what we've seen so far, and we want to see what your other plans are."
     
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  7. BuddhaWake

    BuddhaWake Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Philadelphia
    Don't know anything about Eskandarian so no opinion, I think Gutierrez hit more than he missed so it its a bit dissapointing. The one name I want for the U to cat ties with will never be. :(
     
  8. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Whether they were fired or decided to leave on their own is probably something we'll never know, but only a few short weeks ago they were still part of the technical staff:
    http://www.philadelphiaunion.com/news/2012/06/union-head-man-sakiewicz-explains-dismissal-nowak
    I guess they didn't say for how long. :rolleyes:

    Soumare also stated one of the reasons he signed here was because of Gutierrez.
    http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2012/06/26/soumare-reveals-union-move-was-long-time-making
    As much as Diego and Aleko were "Nowak guys", you might have to wonder how "Nowak players" such as Carroll and Adu will fare with the regime change. And for that matter, how much does the Latin America pipeline dry up now that Diego is gone, regardless of the player-partnership-deal we have with Saprissa.
     
  9. BuddhaWake

    BuddhaWake Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Philadelphia
    if those guys were Nowak guys, is/was Hackworth not a Nowak guy?
     
  10. ericlfd

    ericlfd Member+

    Nov 28, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    as dumb as this sounds, do we have anyone now on the coaching staff/FO that speaks spanish? its probably tough to deliver a motivational speech through an interpreter
     
  11. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh captain, my captain.

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  12. Doop

    Doop Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually after word got out that Diego was funneling talent through his brother as the agent, I'm glad to see him gone. As for Ecks, not sure what the deal was there and probably will never know.
     
  13. ericlfd

    ericlfd Member+

    Nov 28, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    carlos is probably like "okay guys, these fcking gringos are talking bout some dumb sht."
     
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  14. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First they got rid of Twellman, then Eskandarian. Gros is next.
     
  15. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    I know this may sound strange, but you have to learn the language that everyone speaks on the team, especially the coach. It's not the coaches' jobs to adhere to you as a player. It's the player's job to adhere to the club. I can't imagine that there are Mexican clubs who have English speaking coaches to make things easier on Americans who sign there. Same with Italy. There was a huge joke amongst Juventus supporters that one reason why a Dutch and Serbian player never worked out and fit into the squad was because they didn't speak Italian.
     
  16. unholyunion

    unholyunion Member

    Jan 21, 2011
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FYP

    hehe
     
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  17. BuddhaWake

    BuddhaWake Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Philadelphia
    I need to fix mines too. 2 names I would like ties to be cut with but 1 will never happen. Cut Rigby and bring the internet guy from the USOC game, he was more than decent and holding the whole thing on his own. The other person would probably have be bought out, he did clean up well getting rid of almost everyone who could point the finger to him.
     
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  18. CopaMundial

    CopaMundial Member

    Sep 11, 2006
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's also possible that they're leaving now because Nowak found another job and he wants them to join him.
     
  19. BuddhaWake

    BuddhaWake Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Philadelphia
    HEARTS?
    http://euro2012.onet.pl/wiadomosci/...m-reprezentacji-polski,1,5177048,artykul.html
    according to this, Nowak ins angling to become the national team head coach of Poland.

    2nd edit. an intervew with king Piotr from a couple of days ago.
    http://translate.googleusercontent....kJrhg34X9CJ9QdNovFs3iRHmKEyg34Mw#czytaj_dalej
    google translation is ok I guess. or at least I can make it out. as for the split, it just says "disagrrement with the ownership." Dills if you find this is better in the Nowak thread please do me the favor.
     
  20. UnionDues

    UnionDues Member+

    Aug 16, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eskandarian I didn't follow closely, so I have no opinion on him leaving. Gutierrez I'm glad to see out. His signings - other than Gomez - were mostly a bust this year, and the nepotism angle was ugly.
     
  21. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  22. unholyunion

    unholyunion Member

    Jan 21, 2011
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    r0 fl rofl rofl
     
  23. Chester

    Chester Member

    Dec 30, 1999
    SoCal
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Diego lasted about two weeks longer than I figured he would. No opinion on Esky.
     
  24. CopaMundial

    CopaMundial Member

    Sep 11, 2006
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Quotes from the 1:30 press conference here:

    http://www.csnphilly.com/soccer-phi...ces-Gutierrez-Eskan?blockID=734264&feedID=704

     
  25. Slaskwroclaw18

    Jun 26, 2011
    Philadelphia, PA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I swear to God if Nowak becomes the manager of Poland....I don't want him to go from coaching my favorite team just to coach my national team. That is just unfair.....
     

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