Ukraine vs Russia IV - The Betrayal

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  1. Especially for the Russians not from the Russian motherland.
     
  2. goliath74

    goliath74 Member+

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    And those are just the names we know. There is probably just as many dead in that town who are not on that list.
     
  3. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

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    Probably not as many, but it's sure to still be pretty significant, as is the proportion of guys who come home with crippling injuries and horrible PTSD.

    Already very poor, with very low male life expectancy, there'll be nobody to marry and nobody to do the heavy work so the women will leave and take any children with them.

    That town is fcuked for a lifetime
     
  4. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

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    This now seems to have been an incorrect assessment based on low-quality satellite images. With high-resolution images, the only crater seen is close enough to confuse people far away who only see a big boom, but it's so distant the Flamingo was probably shot down short of the complex.
     
  5. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

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    Because the Druzhba pipeline from Russia to Central Europe has been cut off (a portion in Ukraine being damaged by a Russian attack in December), Hungary and Slovakia (the only two European nations still getting Russian oil) have been looking for alternatives. They want Russian oil to arrive in the Adriatic and be pumped by a Croatian pipeline to their nations. While technically allowed by EU rules, Croatia seems to be slow rolling implementation waiting for Europe to close the loophole. Allowing Russian oil would be very bad politically internally as Croatia supports Ukraine. Another avenue Hungary and Slovakia want is to directly get oil shipments from Russia through the Danube. As the Danube goes along the Ukraine border, such a proposal would require the EU to force Ukraine to let them peacefully pass. That doesn't seem likely either.

    Slovakia is the source of some of Ukraine's diesel fuel and Slovakia has stopped all shipments in retaliation.

    In the meantime Hungary and Slovakia have ordered non-Russian oil to the Croatian port so their refineries can keep working - maybe by April. Their refineries are currently running partial capacity and they are using strategic reserves.

    https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-...ore-Russian-Oil-Through-Druzhba-Pipeline.html
     
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  6. The Irish Rover

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  7. Saw on the news heartbreaking images of Africans lured by Russian agents with the promise of factory jobs ending on the ukraine battlefields.
    Some of the images were disgusting, an African with a mine strapped to his belly and under racist curses forced to go to the Ukranian line as a walking bomb.

    What first the Ukranian government should do is send agents to Africa with the mission to kill any Russian recruting agent, but Europe should do the same. It's our duty to stop this racist MO to keep native Russians alive by cheating economically desperate Africans into a certain death.
    We may not be able/willing to be active on the Ukranian battlefields itself, but we as hell can by doing this prevent Ukranians and Africans dying from Russian racism.
     
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  8. Watching African mothers suffering from the footage sent by their out of desperation crying sons is stomach turning.
    As I posted before our aim has to be to carve Russia back to it's slimmest area to put the blade in the disgusting MO of Russia to (re)build an empire by the blood and bodies of non-ethnic Russians.
     
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  9. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

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    A few days ago Ukraine hit the important Russian oil port near Taman. Now we see that instead of hitting any of the crude oil in the large tank farm, a nearby warehouse was obliterated and a big Flamingo-sized crater inside. As far as we can tell, this was used as a vegetable oil processing plant.
     
  10. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

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    Not to mention Romanians are also very supportive of Ukraine in this war, so it isn't even a situation where the cargo ships could go down the Romanian half of the Danube.
     
  11. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

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    They already are. Or, at least, they have in the past. There's obviously a lot of stuff happening outside the news in this war, but Ukraine has, in the past, been involved in attacks on Russians and assassinated Russian's in other countries.
     
  12. Screw Hungary and Slovakia hard, so they can enjoy the taste of their support for Pootin.
    I'm very much in favour of a sudden drawn up border fence between the EU and those two countries as a "fait accompli" with the message: "Enjoy the benefits of Russia's partnership".
     
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  13. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

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    Reminded me of this:

     
  14. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

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    Yeah.. So far, Flamingos are definitely leaning towards the Russian level of accuracy than Western accuracy.
     
  15. Yoshou

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    Did Russia shutdown Telegram because they are getting ready to mobilize ethnic Russians and they wanted to get ahead of any protests?

    https://bsky.app/profile/militarynewsua.bsky.social/post/3mf4ruj55x22a

     
  16. RafaLarios

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  17. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

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    San Rafael, CA
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    Indian oil imports from Russia have fallen from 2 million barrels per day to 1.1 in the last 4 months. The slack is being taken up by China. But being the last one buying almost certainly means they are getting a monster discount.
     
  18. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

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    The power stations and substations around Belgorod has been hit every night for the last week. This is the vital hub for supplies going to the front, so it's a totally legitimate target, but I'd hate to be living there.
     
  19. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

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  20. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

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  21. It's nice to have an ally, not profiting from your misery.
    That's ally's are for, standing besides you, isnot it?

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    Don't get any ideas, Europe.
     
  22. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    First thing I thought of.
     
  23. The Irish Rover

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    #3349 The Irish Rover, Feb 19, 2026
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    The discount for Russia's Ural blend (from the Baltic ports) reached $28 per barrel on the 13th of this month, up $0.70 per barrel. In absolute terms the price of Ural dropped by $1.77 to $42.28 USD per barrel.

    Meanwhile, Brent Light Crude was trading at $67-68 dollars per barrel and West Texas Intermediate was trading at $63.
    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/8442873

    Some of this is being driven by seasonal factors, specifically the lack of ice-resistant tankers willing to transport Russian crude, but declining interest from India and China is definitely a factor. Before the 2022 invasion, the discount was really small, usually no more than $3 and frequently no more than a few cents
     
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  24. The Irish Rover

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    According to the Economist's Oliver Carroll, Ukraine contacted Melon Husk numerous times about turning off the Russians' terminals but the ketamine addict never felt the need to move on it.

    What seems to have changed his calculus is Russia starting to install antennas on its long-range strike drones and, reportedly, starting to redesign the drones to fully incorporate Starlink. This made the drones a direct threat not only for Ukraine but for Europe too.

    I'd imagine that sparked some "full and frank exchanges of views" with the illegal immigrant, with intelligence agencies to the fore in that process. With the Epstein files not going away, I'm sure his mind was concentrated wonderfully
     
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