Ukraine vs Russia III

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  1. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
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    It doesn't really matter what money you use, even pengő (which Hungary once printed in denominations of 100,000,000,000,000,000,000). It's still more than the GDP of the world.
     
  2. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
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    Reportedly there are some elite unit troops there but not SOF per se and there's no more than 2,000 of them and probably less. They may be reasonably good. The rest are cannon fodder.

    And with Russia taking an estimated 1,000 casualties per day, the entire contingent is good for about 2 weeks
     
  3. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

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    I have one of those. It's in perfect condition too.

    That's why it's worth about $50 as a collector's item, which is more than it was ever worth as money
     
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  4. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

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    It's Igor Susko.

    That means it's not very accurate and probably garbage
     
  5. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

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    But once it was, nothing could save the junta
     
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  6. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    I have the same opinion of him as you…but what do you think is garbage? The translation or you think that’s a staged actor. Cause that is a pretty realistic looking ********ed up human.
     
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  7. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

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    Maybe, but when I see a post from Susko I never even look at it on a "boy who cried wolf" basis.

    If it's real, I'll see it soon enough from reliable sources. Otherwise, it'll disappear without trace.
     
  8. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
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    Someone took this to a Korean subRedit and the subtitles were not very accurate but this does seem to be a genuine video. You can go here for a better translation:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/1ggejh4/allegedly_a_video_from_a_north_korean_soldier_has/
     
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  9. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
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    FC Dynamo Kyiv
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    Ukraine
    I do not know whether the video is truthful but South Korean media treats it as real. I consider all the options on this video.
     
  10. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
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    FC Dynamo Kyiv
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    Ukraine
    Depends on what you call a Russian citizen. My uncle and his family who live in Atlanta came here in 1994, just three years after us. They are still technically, Russian citizens (passport, pension and all), even though they are fully pro-Ukraine. And another thing, you are right, I do not know what a Russian citizen's opinion would be. In my circle, I do not inquire on whether people maintain Russian citizenship, unless they volunteer this information.
     
  11. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
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    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    I should have clarified and said current Russian residents.
     
  12. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
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    Russia lost a Su-34 fighter bomber along with the 2-man crew. It isn't clear why it crashed.

    Last week they also lost another of their powerful radars (a 48Ya6 used to detect low flying aircraft, drones, and missiles to be targeted by S-300 / S-400 systems) to a drone attack. It was based in Crimea, and Russia claims it was left in place to await repairs.

    48Ya6-K1 radar s.jpg

    Yeah, good luck with that.
     
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  13. The Irish Rover

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    The shoe of Russia's own version of Evergrande may be about to drop. Real estate developer Samolet Group is classified as a systemically important company in Russia.

    Its bonds maturing in 2 years are nosediving, which is hardly surprising with interest rates at 21% and, with inflation (officially) at 27%, set to keep on rising. The government will have to step in.
    [​IMG]
     
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  14. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

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    Well, this war is going to be....different...next year
     
  15. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    The Ukrainians aren't giving up.
     
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  16. babaorum

    babaorum Member+

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    France and UK strategic forces need to work together now, and be ready to offer their nuclear umbrella to the rest of Europe.
     
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  17. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

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    No, but they won't have the support to resist conventionally.

    Guerilla warfare is inevitable.
     
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  18. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

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    Macron wants to but is a lame duck. Starmer is an office manager and as for Scholz . . .
     
  19. babaorum

    babaorum Member+

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    Yep. That's the issue. Donald Tusk should take the initiative then. I hope him, Sholtz, Macron and Starmer meet very soon.
     
  20. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

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    Remember how Biden went to Germany a few weeks back to meet the trio. He specifically wanted Tusk there, Macron was keen and Starmer, didn't mind. Scholz vetoed it.

    Scholz's coalition is teetering and it may fall. That's not really great news, because Scholz will go with it and the SPD will elect a new leader. Schroeder and his allies are on manouevres and there'll be an even more Putin-compliant leader installed
     
  21. babaorum

    babaorum Member+

    Aug 20, 2005
    Marseille
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    #10296 babaorum, Nov 6, 2024
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    I know. Nothing to be optimistic about. A form a European strategic deterrence will need to be done soon though. Donald Tusk has already expressed his interest in Macron's proposal to make France's nuclear capabilities & potential available to Europe as part of a plan. A France/Poland agreement would be a start. Macron wouldn't need a vote of the parliament to achieve that - it's French President "reserved domain".
     
  22. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Back to Russia's slow disintegration.

    They had another OFZ bond auction today. They failed to place any of the variable rate bonds and only placed 4.9 billion rubles of the fixed rate bonds. They need to sell multiple trillions to balance the budget, so this does nothing.

    I want to give a brief and oversimplified explanation and tie it into Yoshou's post about how the Russian bond trading market is dropping to record lows. When Russia has a new bond to sell, they don't sell at face value. They sell at a discount and the bank then resells it to investors at the face value. That discount is determined by an auction - banks bid on the price. If no bank bids high enough for Russia, Russia just drops the auction and no bonds are placed. Because the whole market for bonds is so low now, banks are not willing to bid high for these bonds. And Russia is desperate to sell. But they still have to pay the face value interest, so if the bids are too low they won't actually get any money (and that seems to be happening with the variable rate and even some of the fixed rate bonds they have sold).
     
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  23. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    A Ukrainian sea drone struck a Russian port today. Nothing too much of note, except that this hit a port in Kaspiysk, Dagestan, which is on the Caspian Sea, not the Black Sea. Over 1000km from the front lines.
     
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  24. Potowmack

    Potowmack Member+

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    Were they targeting ships, or something else at the port?
     
  25. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
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    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    I was going to type something similar, but I almost wonder if guerilla warfare really matters in the parts Russia is already occupying. Putin might be happy to hold on to what's he's got now. If that's the case, I can't imagine seeing an effective guerilla warfare in those areas.
     

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