Ukraine vs Russia III

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  1. Paul Berry

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    Crimea is getting the shit missiled out of it overnight.
     
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  2. The Jitty Slitter

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    I suspect Biden didn't want to make that announcement right when they are trying to agree to fund the government and finalise the National Defense Authorization Act which only passed the house by one vote thanks to GOP fvckery
     
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  3. waitforit

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    Up to 25% fail rate? How the hell is that even possible


    Nah

    This is 2 weeks top of negotiations
     
  4. Brilliant Oranje

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  5. Paul Berry

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  6. The Jitty Slitter

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    This was covered by Obrien - it seems the Poles are saying they need to get paid/compensated as they gave way more than their fair share of stuff
     
  7. Paul Berry

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    He's saying they gave away what they can store out of their existing inventory but they're not going to send the new stuff they're buying because they have two borders to protect.
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  8. The Jitty Slitter

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    So Obrien covered a very anorak but important topic - artillery ammo

    It seems Russia used as much as 11m shells in 2022 and 7m so far this year. They claim to have ramped up their production from 1m to 2m per year - highly unlikely. But even assuming it is 1.5m that is way less than what they have been using to date. Like 4-7x less.

    Ukraine is currently using around 8K fires per day in their offensive which works out at 3m per year. Also not sustainable from production.

    tldr; the massed artillery fires that Russia has relied on simply won't be possible once their stockpile is burnt - which is likely already upon us - hence begging to the norks.

    Sometime in the coming months Ukraine will also run low on shells - then both sides will have to live inside production limits
     
  9. Paul Berry

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    The aggression is likely to ground to a halt in a couple of months anyway. That will give both sides some time to restock.
     
  10. The Jitty Slitter

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    yeah but production levels are nowhere near 'restock' level

    Russia is making enough for about 4K shells per day so to save up 250k for a one month offensive would take 2 months of not firing at all. And 8k per day for Russia is far less than what we saw to date - they have relied on massive superiority in fires.

    Basically the style of warfare will change, and accurate arty will be much more important
     
  11. This whole grain/weapons rambling from Poland is just political home election rethorics. Changes nothing in reality.
     
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  12. spejic

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    Good news on this front. Zelenskyi vetoed the amendments in the original bill and then wielding the power of popular outrage went on a campaign telling the parliamentarians how they fraked up. A new bill with all the transparency put back in was reintroduced and it passed overwhelmingly on the 20th.
     
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  13. spejic

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    Russia has banned exporting refined oil products like gasoline and diesel. It might be to save these for military purposes as moving through mud is more energy intensive than moving over hard ground. However, Russia's internal market for these items is all screwed up and it may just be to force gasoline and diesel producers to sell to Russian citizens at a loss.
     
  14. ceezmad

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  16. Paul Berry

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    So I was premature when I posted this the other day. Ukraine hit the airfield south of Yevpatoriya hard last night.
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  17. Bootsy Collins

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    I would have expected it to be exempt anyway. Certain types of Pentagon activities (including mine, thank goodness) are considered spent funds when the money moves from its original Pentagon funding account to another Pentagon account associated with the activity.
     
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  18. Bootsy Collins

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    What am I supposed to be seeing here?
     
  19. Paul Berry

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    Planes on runways prior to last night's attack.
     
  20. Bootsy Collins

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    Sorry, I'm still not getting it. I see one pic of one location where there are three parked aircraft, plus a second pic of a different location where there are two parked aircraft. What am I supposed to infer from the five planes?
     
  21. The Jitty Slitter

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    Abrams inbound next week my doods
     
  22. Paul Berry

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    Nothing.
     
  23. And the site crashes:ROFLMAO:
    What is a continental view of pin up girls?
     
  24. ElNaranja

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    Nsfw
     
  25. superdave

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    visible nipples
     

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