UK General Election 2017

Discussion in 'Elections' started by The Biscuitman, Dec 11, 2014.

  1. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    Additional thoughts from me:

    1) SNP needs to learn how to govern before calling for independence.

    2) I do not like that Corbyn may be leading Labour for a while. I consider his policies anti-capitalist. YMMV but capitalism has worked really well for a long time.

    3) Another woman underperforms at the polls.
     
  2. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
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    SNP loses their first seat to Labour.. However, seems that Conservatives were the big swing getting most of the SNP's losses, but still finishing a distant 3rd
     
  3. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
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    Multiple Labour pickups of a Conservative seats.. exit polls are seeming to be fairly accurate so far
     
  4. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    Beginning to look like Mayhem.
     
  5. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
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    Is it sad that I have the USMNT game on TV, but turned down and BBC live stream turned up on my phone? :)
     
  6. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
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    So.. If it does turn out to be a hung parliament, what happens?
     
  7. ArsenalMetro

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    Why did the BBC forecast change to 322 Conservative seats?
     
  8. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
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    And.. Conservative pickup of SNP seat in Rushcliffe
     
  9. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
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    SNP is being killed in Scotland
     
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  10. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
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    SNP is down 5.. +3 Conservative/+2 Labour.. could end up being a Conservative majority on the back of Scottish Unionists.
     
  11. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
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    Rushcliffe is a Nottingham seat in England and has been Kenneth Clarke's Conservative seat for ever.
     
  12. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
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    Could well be... Conservatives doing badly in London but very well in Scotland.
     
  13. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
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    Can't remember which, but another Conservative pickup was a Labour seat before the SNP sweep
     
  14. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
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    Oh dear.. Former Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg loses his seat to Labour.
     
  15. M

    M Member+

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    #990 M, Jun 8, 2017
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    Where I went to university... and looks like the student vote for Labour was the key factor there.
     
  16. Boloni86

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    Jun 7, 2000
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  17. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

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    So does this mean that David Cameron is not the worst PM in history?
     
  18. Sudžuka

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    #993 Sudžuka, Jun 8, 2017
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    Raised college tuition when said he wouldn't and told students to grow up
     
  19. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    In a word, no! Well, not for many years... probably since the 80's.

    I found it hard to get very excited for Blair who was largely tory-lite. Cameron and Blair could have sat in the same cabinet, NO problem. After the brexit debacle I thought it important to try and push a more sensible approach because 'business as usual' isn't really an option atm.
     
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  20. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    They're amending the initial exit poll as more results come in. It's been reduced now to 318 now on the same basis.
     
  21. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    Hmm... good question. Let's just say it's now more of a close-run thing ;) :giggle:

    But, in practical terms, no... he's still the worst and y some margin. Don't forget, he's the one that created the position May, (and the rest of us), found herself in.
     
  22. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    Well, quite! :)

    Oh... that wasn't a rhetorical question. :D

    Well, it depends on the precise maths involved in terms of seats.

    The DUP would normally vote with the tories. The conservatives used to be the conservative and unionist party.

    Apart from that for most of the past couple of decades the policies of labour, the liberals and the greens have been largely interchangeable. The only reason we've had conservative governments is because our first past the post electoral system favours one relatively united party rather than several not-united ones.

    So, in terms of a hung parliament, you've got the tories and the DUP versus 'the rest' and this is in the context of a parliament of 650 seats. If the tories get more than 326 seats, (actually 323 because Sinn Fein don't take their seats), they'll need the support of another party and the DUP are the only real possibility.
     
  23. jmartin1966

    jmartin1966 Member+

    Jun 13, 2004
    Chicago
    Looks like combination of DUP support and Sinn Fien not taking seats may mean a conservative government.
     
  24. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    Chelsea FC
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    As things stand, that looks most likely but there still might be some surprises.
     
  25. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    Chelsea FC
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    Just to clear up something that might be confusing some of our foreign readers, to make it absolutely plain...

    Any MP voted into parliament has precisely the same number of votes in the commons as any other MP, including the prime minister, chancellor or whatever else... ONE!
     

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