UK General Election 2017

Discussion in 'Elections' started by The Biscuitman, Dec 11, 2014.

  1. Waliatiger

    Waliatiger Member+

    Jul 1, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    In 1990 the UK had 55m people today it has 62-63m a massive increase because of uncontrolled mass immigration. The UK is one of the only countries in the world to not have controls on Immigration. It cannot control the numbers that come nor can it control where they come from.

    The number one issue amongst British voters is the economy and how it relates to immigration yet this thread is full of horse race punditry and final seat total BS. The reason nobody on this thread is talking about immigration is because you haven't seen what it has done to UK first hand or are too PC to confront it. That is why 70% of voters in a daily mail poll said no to more migrants. The UK is not the US it cannot intake and retain these high numbers of immigrants.

    But continue on with your prognostications and insights while The nation goes down the tubes.
     
  2. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Wow, a Daily Mail poll. That's going to be impartial.
     
  3. White/Blue_since1860

    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Have you seen it, sir?
     
  4. The Biscuitman

    The Biscuitman Member+

    Jul 4, 2007
    Club:
    Reading FC
    :ROFLMAO:

    its only people from within the EU that can come here without having a VISA approved.

    EU population is 500M. Take the 64M UK population away from that and you are left with 436M. Thats just 6% of the world that can come here without a VISA.
     
  5. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    (63-50)/25 = 0.52 million increase a year. (63-50)/50 = 0.26% increase (I always forget which number goes in the denominator, is this right?). That's barely population replacement growth.

    For those of you who have short memories, Britain has always found unique ways to reduce its population if there were agricultural problems (no, we won't forget). In fact, most economists would agree that Britain needs more immigrants, not fewer.

    All this talk from Wally about immigration being the death of Britain runs counter to macro 101.
     
  6. The Biscuitman

    The Biscuitman Member+

    Jul 4, 2007
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Most polls done on this have said the NHS is the leading issue for voters
     
  7. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    And the NHS relies heavily on immigrant doctors and nurses.
     
  8. Waliatiger

    Waliatiger Member+

    Jul 1, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Yes seen it in Luton, Leicester, Bradford and London. When British soldiers are being murduered in the street in cold blood with machetes by extremists with immigrant orgins then their is a problem. But why would a German care about the UK........
     
  9. Waliatiger

    Waliatiger Member+

    Jul 1, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Wrong immigration and the economy is #1
     
  10. Waliatiger

    Waliatiger Member+

    Jul 1, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    And why is that? It's because they are imported them for lower wages that they would pay British workers.
     
  11. White/Blue_since1860

    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    And what have you seen there in particular?
     
  12. Waliatiger

    Waliatiger Member+

    Jul 1, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    EU migrants, non-EU migrants they all have have had a net negative impact for the UK since 1948 the EU has just made matters 100 times worse. and what's wrong with a DM poll? Would you rather I quote from the guardian or telegraph?
     
  13. Waliatiger

    Waliatiger Member+

    Jul 1, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Segregation, non-assimilation, extremism, welfare dependency, alienation, ethnic enclaves and overall hostility to local culture. Part of it is a reaction to discrimination and newness to the country I suppose.
     
  14. White/Blue_since1860

    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Well Im sure you can see this in every major city in the US and it is called Chinatown. As for the welfare dependency - UKs own fault not to regulate who's a citizen and who should be allowed to get benefits. Nothing to write home about rly what you come up with here.
     
  15. The Biscuitman

    The Biscuitman Member+

    Jul 4, 2007
    Club:
    Reading FC
    soldiers? Plural? I am only aware of Lee Rigby. Who were the others?
     
  16. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Ummm .. what?
     
  17. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Forget it, John. It's Chinatown.
     
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  18. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    His post reminded me of my wife's Lithuanian relatives, who disapproved of a Lithuanian marrying a Hong Kong woman. My wife's response - "She's marrying down. A lot."
     
  19. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    UK
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--


    New political party one the rise ¬_¬
     
  20. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    No. The NHS operates with clear salary bands - this isn't the dodgy private sector. They are needed because successive governments have failed to get enough people trained to fill the needs of the service.
     
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  21. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    I'd rather you stopped posting bollocks.
     
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  22. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
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  23. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    UK
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    He has simply hijacked and ruined the thread.
     
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  24. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    UK
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    seat projections (323 for majority)


    Five Thirty Eight
    Conservative -
    279
    Labour - 270
    SNP - 48
    Lib Dems - 27
    DUP - 8
    Sinn Fein - 5
    Plaid Cymru -4
    SDLP - 3
    UKIP -
    2
    Greens - 1
    Independent - 1
    others - 2
    (Lab+SNP + PC + SDLP + Greens = 326.)


    Election Forecast
    Conservative - 279
    Labour - 270
    SNP - 48
    Lib Dems - 27
    DUP - 8
    Sinn Fein - 5
    Plaid Cymru -4
    SDLP - 3
    UKIP -
    2
    Greens - 1
    Independent - 1
    others - 2
    (Lab+SNP + PC + SDLP + Greens = 326.)

    Seat Calculator - New Statesman
    Conservative - 277
    Labour - 266
    SNP - 56
    Lib Dems - 26
    DUP - 8
    Sinn Fein - 5
    Plaid Cymru -3
    SDLP - 3
    UKIP -
    2
    Greens - 1
    Independent - 1
    others - 2
    (lab+SNP+PC+SDLP+Greens = 329)

    Electoral Calculus
    Conservative - 281
    Labour - 274
    SNP - 55
    Lib Dems - 17
    DUP - 8
    Sinn Fein - 5
    Plaid Cymru -3
    SDLP - 3
    UKIP -
    1
    Greens - 1
    Independent - 1
    others - 2
    (Lab +SNP + PC + SDLP + Green = 336)

    Elections Etc
    Conservative - 291
    Labour - 258
    SNP - 53
    Lib Dems - 25
    DUP - 8
    Sinn Fein - 5
    Plaid Cymru -3
    SDLP - 3
    UKIP -
    0
    Greens - 1
    Independent - 1
    others -2

    Cons + Lib Dems = 316

    The Guardian
    Conservative - 276
    Labour - 267
    SNP - 55
    Lib Dems - 27
    DUP - 8
    Sinn Fein - 5
    Plaid Cymru -3
    SDLP - 3
    UKIP -
    1
    Greens - 1
    Independent - 1
    others - 2
    (Lab + SNP + PC + SDLP + Greens = 329

    UK Elect
    Conservative 272
    Labour 272
    SNP 55
    Liberal Democrat 25
    UKIP 3
    DUP 9
    Sinn Fein 5
    SDLP 3
    Green 1
    Plaid Cymru 3
    Others 2
    Lab+SNP+PC+SDLP+Greens = 334

    Telgraph/ Betfair
    Labour Minority - 35.1%
    Con/ Lib Dem Coalition - 18.2%
    Conservative Minority - 16.4%
    Any other Government/ Coalition - 9.8%
    Conservative Majority - 9.4%
    Labour/ Lib Dem Coalition - 8.5%
    Con/ UKIP Coalition - 1.6%
    Labour Majority - 1%
     
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  25. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Could the conservatives and SNP work together of the conservatives offer them another referendum (say if UK votes on the EU and vote to leave, the Scotland would have the right to leave the UK or at least vote on it).
     

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