UFC 74: Respect :: August 25th, Las Vegas

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  1. Bison1997

    Bison1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 30, 2001
    RFK - Lot 8
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here's how the show is shaping up:

    PPV Card:

    Heavyweight Title: Randy Couture © vs. Gabriel Gonzaga
    Georges St. Pierre vs. Josh Koscheck
    Patrick Cote vs. Kendall Grove
    Joe Stevenson vs. Kurt Pellegrino
    Alberto Crane vs. Roger Huerta (Might make PPV if time permits)

    Dark Matches, might make PPV if time permits:

    David Heath vs. Renato “Babalu” Sobral
    Antoni Hardonk vs. Frank Mir
    Marcus Aurelio vs. Clay Guida
    Ryan Jensen vs. Travis Lutter

    -- Couture might have a real fight on his hands, if Gonzaga's KO of Cro Cop is any indication.

    -- GSP vs. Koscheck could be one hell of a fight if both come to play.

    -- As could Cote vs. Grove.
     
  2. ssanchez

    ssanchez Member

    Oct 15, 2000
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From what I gathered of the Crocop fight Gonzaga's is very athletic. Huge physical specimen and great ground skills, The question then becomes if Randy can effectively take him down while avoiding very heavy punches. You also can't ever count out Randy. Have had the peasure of meeting him a couple of times and is a great guy (same with Rampage I may add) Cote Grove andPeirre v Koscheck sound like they are gonna be fun.
    Frank Mir after he snapped Silvias arm was one of my favorite fighters, Incredible Jui jitsu. To bad about his motorcycle accident, but has not been the same fighter after the crash. Still like the guy but I don't think mentally he has come back yet. Hopefully this will be his way back.
     
  3. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Denver
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    All I know about GG is his kick to Cro Cop's brain. I'm sure Randy will be careful of Gonzaga's striking. I see Randy coming in with a game plan he sticks to and working over GG for the win.

    This could be a good fight or it could be a short fight if either of these guys' heads isn't ready.

    This was the fight that made me perk up when I saw it. Grove still seams kind of raw but he really battles when he is in the ring. I'm looking forward to seeing this match up.

    I just hate Joe Stevenson.

    I don't see why UFC wouldn't try to get this on the PPV. Huerta is an up and comer and was the guy SI chose to put on their cover. I can't see UFC not playing that up.

    I can't believe they keep letting Mir fight. Yes, he was awesome. But as sanchez said, he has never been the same since the bike wreck and has just been getting pounded in the octagon. Let him step up and announce UFC fights instead of just WEC. He's a really good announcer.
     
  4. Walter3000

    Walter3000 Member+

    Apr 8, 2004
    gainesville, Florida
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I really dont see Koscheck giving GSP much of a fight, he's too one dimensional, and Couture is going to dismantle Gonzaga, I saw him fight before, very unimpressive, he got a lucky kick on cro cop, it happens, usually not twice.
     
  5. Walter3000

    Walter3000 Member+

    Apr 8, 2004
    gainesville, Florida
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why the dislike for Stevenson?
     
  6. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Denver
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I just didn't like his attitude on Ultimate Fighter. Maybe his cockiness gets to me.

    But I think he's a great fighter and I like watching him because he is damn good and I want to see him progress and get a big-time fight.
     
  7. Bison1997

    Bison1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 30, 2001
    RFK - Lot 8
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, the cockiness is probably because he is damn good and yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing him rise up the ladder as well.
     
  8. Zviggy

    Zviggy New Member

    Nov 15, 2001
    Brisbane, Australia
    I like Stevenson. One of the craziest things i have ever seen in the TUF house is when Stevenson and Whitehead did that scarecrow thing and stevenson climbed around Whitehead something like 200+ times. That is ABSOLUTELY NUTS!!!!

    I spoke to Jardine about that and he reckons the whole house was amazed.

    Clay Guida vs. Marcus Aurelio should be broadcast as well. Bloody lightweights hardly ever get any PPV coverage. Albert Crans vs. Huerta will be a good fight as well.
     
  9. BigGuy

    BigGuy Red Card

    Apr 12, 2007
    A great fight card from top to bottom.
     
  10. Walter3000

    Walter3000 Member+

    Apr 8, 2004
    gainesville, Florida
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So are all the Pride-UFC crossovers going to be in a cage with UFC rules?

    Big advantage for the home team there.
     
  11. BigGuy

    BigGuy Red Card

    Apr 12, 2007
    Yes, but you will see a lot of good fighters all on one card.
     
  12. Bison1997

    Bison1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 30, 2001
    RFK - Lot 8
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bump.

    This one's coming up folks. Anyone planning on watching it?
     
  13. BigGuy

    BigGuy Red Card

    Apr 12, 2007
    Well, I am not going to vegas to see it, but PPV definately.

    My youngest son is going to Vegas with his girl friend and will see it live.

    I am looking forward to it.
     
  14. ssanchez

    ssanchez Member

    Oct 15, 2000
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A group of us are gathering in Chino hills to watch and drink ling we always do for UFC fights. It has become an event for us.
     
  15. Bison1997

    Bison1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 30, 2001
    RFK - Lot 8
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The same thing here in the DC area - there are a few bars that are packed to the gills for the shows. I'm in Toronto this weekend, but have a lead on a bar that should be showing it.
     
  16. BigGuy

    BigGuy Red Card

    Apr 12, 2007
    Georges St. Pierre vs. Josh Koscheck

    Winner goes for the title against the winner of Hughes v Serra.

    It looks like Karo is out for some reason?
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    Alberto Crane vs. Roger Huerta

    This may be a interesting fight even though Huerta is really GOOOOOOD.
     
  17. Zviggy

    Zviggy New Member

    Nov 15, 2001
    Brisbane, Australia
    Results from the weigh ins:

    Hvywt.: Randy Couture (228.5) vs. Gabriel Gonzaga (252)
    170 lbs.: Georges St. Pierre (170) vs. Josh Koscheck (170)
    155 lbs.: Joe Stevenson (155) vs. Kurt Pellegrino (155)
    185 lbs.: Kendall Grove (184) vs. Patrick Cote (184.5)
    155 lbs.: Roger Huerta (155) vs. Alberto Crane (155)
    205 lbs.: Renato “Babalu” Sobral (204) vs. David Heath (205)
    Hvywt.: Frank Mir (255) vs. Antoni Hardonk (244)
    185 lbs.: Thales Leites (188) vs. Ryan Jensen (185)
    155 lbs.: Marcus Aurelio (155) vs. Clay Guida (155

    Thales Leites came back two hour later and shed two pounds to make weight.
     
  18. BigGuy

    BigGuy Red Card

    Apr 12, 2007
    Wow, there were some good fights fought last night.

    Hvywt.: Randy Couture (228.5) vs. Gabriel Gonzaga (252)

    Once Couture broke his nose it was over.
    Stand him up in the corner and upper cut him to death.
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    170 lbs.: Georges St. Pierre (170) vs. Josh Koscheck (170)

    Pierre was all business and he is back big time
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    155 lbs.: Joe Stevenson (155) vs. Kurt Pellegrino (155)

    That was a great tecnical fight by both fighters. Stevenson is a good fighter.

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    185 lbs.: Kendall Grove (184) vs. Patrick Cote (184.5)

    Cote was the most fit I have ever seen him

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    155 lbs.: Roger Huerta (155) vs. Alberto Crane (155)

    Great fight with great Jujitsu by Crane. Huerta is a tough guy and can escape submissions. Besides gassing and not having the striking power of Huerta my son called me and said Crane looked like he did not train enough no gi.

    He said some of the choking submissions crane used work great using the gi but are not that great not using the gi. Crane at his school uses the gi. Just like my son does his jijutsi he uses the gi.
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    205 lbs.: Renato “Babalu” Sobral (204) vs. David Heath (205)

    Sobral won but not on TV
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    Hvywt.: Frank Mir (255) vs. Antoni Hardonk (244)

    Mir won but not on tv.

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    185 lbs.: Thales Leites (188) vs. Ryan Jensen (185)

    Good fight until Ryan got caught in the arm bar.

    Nice submission by Leites he is going to be a very hard guy to beat. He is real good.\
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    155 lbs.: Marcus Aurelio (155) vs. Clay Guida (155

    Wasn't on TV because Guida dominated.

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    Certainly woth the 40 for the PPV

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    UF 6 looks completely nuts.

    I guess these guys are not afraid of getting thrown off the show. How stupid are they?
     
  19. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Denver
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Oh yeah.
     
  20. ssanchez

    ssanchez Member

    Oct 15, 2000
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gonzaga kicked Couture in the head but Couture reacted fast. Just when you think he can't beat them Couture does. I have nothing but respect for this guy. Felt bad for Spider on his loss, but Ortiz should have told Grove that Cote hits like a ton of bricks. Now I am super pumped for Rampage's first title defense should be a great show also. Had a great time drinking talking and watching the fights.
     
  21. BigGuy

    BigGuy Red Card

    Apr 12, 2007
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    BigGuy Red Card

    Apr 12, 2007
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    BigGuy Red Card

    Apr 12, 2007
  24. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    couture is a friggin caveman.
    what beast-like style of fighting.
     
  25. BigGuy

    BigGuy Red Card

    Apr 12, 2007
    I don't think he can be beat unless your able to strike him hard enough to knock him out. He is a college educated animale :)
     

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