UEFA Women's under 17/19 Championship

Discussion in 'Women's International' started by Lusankya, Mar 31, 2011.

  1. Lusankya

    Lusankya Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  2. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Is the U-17 WWC increasing in size? Why have a final round of eight, if the same number of teams get to qualify for the U-17 WC every two years.
     
  3. Lusankya

    Lusankya Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Hmm, I don't know about that. But look, the WWC was expanded from 16 to 24, the Women's EURO from 12 to 16 and the U-17 WEURO from 4 to 8. It's likely that the U-17 and U-20 WWC will be expanded as well (to 24 teams like their male counterparts).
    But I guess it's not THAT likely at least for the U-17 WWC considering some results like 9:0 or 10:1 and Azerbaijan in 2012 won't probably help as well.
     
  4. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Who took those 9 and 10 goal beatings in the last U-17's WWC?

    I just find it odd that Europe increases it's final comp to 8 now, especially after seeing what Iceland had to offer in the last editions final 4 :eek:.

    EDIT: Whoops, I now remember who gave out the heavy beatings, Germany. The monster that went on to exit the WC with a whimper, without scoring a goal :eek:
     
  5. Lusankya

    Lusankya Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  6. Lusankya

    Lusankya Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Results:
    France U-17 - Ireland U-17 4:0
    Norway U-17 - Poland U-17 1:0

    Next MD (21.03.12):
    France U-17 - Poland U-17
    Ireland U-17 - Norway U-17
     
  7. Lusankya

    Lusankya Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    2nd MD (21.03.12):
    France U-17 - Poland U-17 4:0
    Ireland U-17 - Norway U-17 0:2

    Next matchday the winner of France - Norway will progress to the semi finals. In case of a draw France will progress because of superior goal difference.
     
  8. Lusankya

    Lusankya Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    3rd MD:
    France U-17 - Norway U-17 4:0
    Ireland U-17 - Poland U-17 1:0


    No problems for France here, they're the first side to progress to the semi finals.
     
  9. Lusankya

    Lusankya Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Today all groups had their first matchday of the second qualifying round for the U-19 WEURO.

    Group A
    Norway U-19 - Belgium U-19 3:0
    Czech Republic U-19 - Portugal U-19 3:2


    Group B
    Sweden U-19 - Northern Ireland U-19 3:0
    Germany U-19 - Poland U-19 2:0


    Group C

    France U-19 - Romania U-19 0:1
    Netherlands U-19 - Iceland U-19 1:1


    Group D
    Denmark U-19 - Switzerland U-19 3:0
    Republic of Ireland U-19 - Serbia U-19 0:2


    Group E

    Spain U-19 - Italy U-19 4:0
    Russia U-19 - Scotland U-19 0:1


    Group F
    Austria U-19 - Wales U-19 0:2
    England U-19 - Finland U-19 1:0


    The six group winners and the best runner-up will qualify for the final tournament.
     
  10. Lusankya

    Lusankya Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Second match day:

    Group A
    Portugal U-19 - Norway U-19 3:1
    Belgium U-19 - Czech Republic U-19 3:0

    Interesting group, all 4 teams with 3 points now.


    Group B
    Sweden U-19 - Poland U-19 3:1
    Germany U-19 - Northern Ireland U-19 2:0

    As expected Germany and Sweden will fight for the first place in this group. With a draw Germany would only finish in 2nd place but with good chances to be the best 2nd placed team.


    Group C

    Iceland U-19 - Romania U-19 0:2
    Netherlands U-19 - France U-19 0:1

    Romania already won the group. A big surprise!


    Group D
    Denmark U-19 - Serbia U-19 2:4
    Republic of Ireland U-19 - Switzerland U-19 0:2

    Serbia only need a draw to win this group, which would be the next big surprise. However if they lose against Switzerland, there would be most likely 3 teams with 6 points and in this case Denmark should finish 1st.

    Here are the scenarios:

    Denmark don't win against Ireland
    - Serbia will win the group if they don't lose to Switzerland
    - Switzerland will win the group if they win against Serbia

    Denmark win against Ireland
    - Serbia will win the group if they don't lose to Switzerland or they only lose by 1 goal while scoring at least 1 goal themselves.
    - Switzerland will win the group if they win by at least 5 goals or by 4 goals while scoring at least 6 goals
    - Denmark will win the group otherwise



    Group E

    Matches are postponed


    Group F
    Austria U-19 - Finland U-19 2:0
    England U-19 - Wales U-19 6:0

    England already qualified as group winners.
     
  11. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    According to the rules England, Austria can win the group.
    Should Austria beat England both side will end up with 6 points :

    6.11 If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group
    matches, the following criteria are applied to determine the rankings:
    a) Higher number of points obtained in the group matches played among the
    teams in question.
    b) Superior goal difference resulting from the group matches played among
    the teams in question.

    Well I think Austria will go through and England likely to go home.
    In the meantime Wales beating Finland combined wit an Austria win would see 3 teams at 6 points and in that case

    criteria a Austria 3 England 3 Wales 3
    criteria b Wales -4 England 6-a Austria a-2 with a the goal difference between austria and england in am Austria win. Austria would qualify if a-2> 6-a <=> 2a>8 <=> a>4
     
  12. Lusankya

    Lusankya Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yeah, I messed up. Somehow I thought England already played Austria on match day 1, but that was Finland. :eek:

    Obviously I know the tie breaker rules, otherwise I wouldn't have wrote all the stuff about Serbia's group. ;)

    I am pretty sure England won't lose to Austria and in a three way tie, England have by far the best chances to progress, because I don't see Austria scoring 5 goals against them.
     
  13. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Right, having watched all 4 teams in action last night, I still think Austria can nick one and hold defensively. England got a lucky break for the first goal that opened the floodgate. One Welsh defender got fouled and was lying on the floor and the referee got her dragged off the pitch and gave the ball for a throw to England :confused: who scored straightaway against the 10 Welsh players who hadn't had time to reorganise.

    Then Wales collapsed. Strange thing as well two of their players were in France for the senior qualifier instead of helping them...
     
  14. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Day 3 games all played at 1500 CET today. Good luck to guess who will be the best runner-up as there are many candidates. I don't expect many to get 4 points.
     
  15. Lusankya

    Lusankya Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Germany is the only team, that can get 4 points without relying on the other match (they just need a draw against Sweden).

    Group 1
    Norway will finish with +3 GD 4 pts, if they draw with Czech Republic AND Belgium beat Portugal
    Portugal will finish with +2 GD 4 pts, if they draw with Belgium AND Norway beat Czech Republic

    Group 2
    Germany will finish with +2 GD 4 pts, if they draw with Sweden

    Group 3
    Netherland will finish with (at least) +1 GD 4 pts, if they beat Romania AND Iceland beat France

    Group 4
    No team will finish with 4 points

    Group 5
    Scotland will finish with +1 GD 4 pts, if they draw with Spain AND Russia beat Italy.

    Group 6
    Austria will finish with +2 GD 4 pts, if they draw with England AND Finland beat Wales.
     
  16. Lusankya

    Lusankya Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Norway - Czech Republic 3:2
    Portugal - Belgium 2:1

    Portugal 1st


    Sweden - Germany 1:0 :mad:
    Northern Ireland - Poland 3:0

    Sweden 1st

    Romania - Netherlands 1:1
    France - Iceland 1:0

    Romania 1st

    Serbia - Switzerland 1:0
    Denmark - Ireland 2:0

    Serbia 1st
    Denmark best 2nd


    Spain - Scotland 3:2
    Italy - Russia 1:0

    Spain 1st


    England - Austria 1:0
    Wales - Finland 1:2

    England 1st
     
  17. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    UEFA's U-20 WC representatives were decided last year right?
     
  18. Lusankya

    Lusankya Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  19. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    That might explain why we can see so many upsets then. Romania?
     
  20. Lusankya

    Lusankya Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    No, I think Europe's team are just getting closer in the youth department. It's completely normal for the U-17 to U-21 tournaments for they boys and will be normal for the girls as well.
    E.g. this season U-17 Georgia won a group with U-17 Spain and U-17 England!

    It was the first time ever, that the German U-19 missed the final tournament and I heard they were the better team against Sweden (but lacking a striker, Magull and Leupolz had to play as strikers), but I think it will be normal in the future that even Germany will miss the FT once in a while.
     
  21. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Some top nations would eventually miss a few things here and there, but I still think the lack of WC qualification had it's part to play in some of this. How else do you explain a global power like Germany trying to qualify for this years tournament without a single recognised forward, lol. It's not like they won lasts years comp because of a one off golden generation of talent.
     
  22. Lusankya

    Lusankya Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    U-17 WEURO results of group 4:

    Germany U-17 - Czech Republic U-17 2:0
    Spain U-17 - Serbia U-17 7:2

    Nothing out of the ordinary here, however Serbia were leading 2:1 at a point and I thought they could maybe repeat the success of their U-19 team.
     
  23. Lusankya

    Lusankya Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    U-17 WEURO results of group 4:

    Spain U-17 - Czech Republic U-17 2:0
    Germany U-17 - Serbia U-17 4:0

    As expected the match between hosts Spain and Germany will decide the group winner.
     
  24. Lusankya

    Lusankya Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Group 1

    Belgium U-17 - Switzerland U-17 3:3
    England U-17 - Iceland U-17 0:1
     
  25. debzy

    debzy Member+

    May 26, 2009
    paris
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    France didn't qualified for the U19 , we have been eliminated by romania, we scored only 1 goal in 3 matches , which his pretty bad for our new standard....
    but anyway is great to see new nations taking women football seriously.
     

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