UEFA Women's Nations League 2023/24

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  1. Ethan Frank

    Ethan Frank Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Jun 11, 2019
    So, England (apparently through nomination) are the only team that can qualify Great Britain for the Olympics. I initially questioned Scotland being in the same group as England because I thought about what if they just didn't try their best vs England while giving their all vs the Netherlands. However, since the Nations League is acting as qualification for the next Euros, Scotland would have no incentive for that. Instead, Scotland could hinder England's chances of qualifying Great Britain for the Olympics if they managed to take points off England.
     
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  2. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    The Nations League 2024/25 (Group A,B and C) act as qualification for the Euros.
    The Nations League 2023/24 (Group A) act as qualification for the Olympics. Only 13 out of 16 teams in Group A can qualify for Paris.
     
  3. Ethan Frank

    Ethan Frank Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Jun 11, 2019
    Right, but I thought I read group placing in the Nations League 2023/2024 impacts the Nations League 2024/2025. So, you wouldn't want to finish last in your group. I can't remember if there's a benefit to finishing second instead of third in your group. I could be wrong though.
     
  4. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's promotion and relegation, and the most straightforward path to Euro 25 qualification is by being in League A for the 24/25 Nations League. Fourth place in the 23/24 League A groups is automatically relegated, and third place has a playoff against a League B runner-up that it must win to stay in League A.
     
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  5. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Promotion/relegation rules

    League A

    The top two teams in each group remain in League A for the European Qualifiers for UEFA Women's EURO 2025.

    The four third-placed teams play off against against the second-placed teams in each group of League B. The winner of each match play in League A for the European Qualifiers phase; the defeated teams will play in League B.

    The fourth-placed teams are relegated to League B.

    League B

    The four group winners are promoted to League A.

    The four second-placed teams play against the third-placed teams in League A. The winner of each match play in League A; the defeated teams will play in League B.

    The three best third-placed teams play off against the three best-ranked second-placed teams of League C. The winners play in League B for the European Qualifiers phase; the defeated teams will play in League C.

    The lowest ranked third-placed team and the four fourth-placed teams are relegated to League C.

    League C

    The five group winners are promoted to League B.

    The third best-ranked second-placed teams play-off against the three best third-placed teams of League B. The winners play in League B for the European Qualifiers phase; the defeated teams play in League C.

    The remaining teams stay in League C
     
  6. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    @shlj Greece vs. Poland link is merged with Ukraine's
     
  7. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Yep, I have just check the UEFA link is the same for some reason...
     
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  8. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Tie breakers if teams finish level on points:

    If, on completion of the league stage, two or more teams in the same group are equal on points, the following criteria are applied, in the order given, to determine their rankings:

    1. higher number of points obtained in the group matches played among the teams in question;

    2. superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams in question;

    3. higher number of goals scored in the group matches played among the teams in question;

    4. if, after having applied criteria a) to c), teams still have an equal ranking, criteria a) to c) are reapplied exclusively to the group matches between the remaining teams to determine their final rankings. If this procedure does not lead to a decision, criteria e) to k) apply, in the order given, to the two or more teams still equal;

    5. superior goal difference in all group matches;

    6. higher number of goals scored in all group matches;

    7. higher number of away goals scored in all group matches;

    8. higher number of wins in all group matches;

    9. higher number of away wins in all group matches;

    10. lower disciplinary points total based only on yellow and red cards received by players and team officials in all group matches (red card = 3 points, yellow card = 1 point, expulsion for two yellow cards in one match = 3 points);

    11. higher position in the UEFA women's national team coefficient rankings (see Annex D).
     
  9. zdravstvuyte

    zdravstvuyte Member

    Aston Villa
    United States
    Jul 26, 2018
    Back on tour !!!
  10. Hexa

    Hexa Member+

    May 21, 2010
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
  11. Ethan Frank

    Ethan Frank Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Jun 11, 2019
    Dutch fans complaining about Spitse starting and not having a good World Cup while I'm just wondering if most people think Pelova actually had a good World Cup or Spitse is taking attention off her.
     
  12. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    O Germany :ninja:

    The slide continues... This is wild.
     
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  13. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    And drama in Sweden! Hosts scored first, but Spain were leading 2-1 with less than 10' from time. Sweden equalizes at 82', then gives up a PK at the end of stoppage time, meaning Spain are now on top of the "live" FIFA rankings! :eek::thumbsup:
     
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  14. lukephan

    lukephan Member+

    Oct 1, 2012
    Poland crushes Greece 3:1 and tops the group. :thumbsup:
     
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  15. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    So Jonker sticks with the same 3-back system? Maybe you can beat most teams with it and this group--but top-tier opponents? I'm skeptical.
     
  16. Ethan Frank

    Ethan Frank Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Jun 11, 2019
    The Dutch weren't good today, but that would have been a 1-0 win with Van Domselaar in goal. Weimar could/should have done better on the first goal, gave up the winning corner instead of holding onto the ball for whatever reason, and had a bad punch into her own net on the winning corner. Groenen, Van de Donk, and Brugts had good/decent matches overall in my opinion; everyone else was fine/average. Van de Donk off a great Groenen dribble and cross and Roord off of a good Van de Donk cutback were great chances not taken for the Dutch to win the match.
     
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  17. zdravstvuyte

    zdravstvuyte Member

    Aston Villa
    United States
    Jul 26, 2018
    Back on tour !!!
    Jackie is the engine room.
     
  18. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Greece 1 - 3 Poland
    Markou 24' --- Pajor 1', Padilla 40', Pawollek 84'
     
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  19. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Interestingly no big scoreline today. One win by four goals, one win by three. Others by two or one as well as many draws.
    The days of 6,7,8,9 and up to 20-0 are now gone or should be gone.
     
  20. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Group A1

    Belgium defeating the Netherlands 2-1 is a huge surprise. Obviously the Netherlands played their third goalkeeper choice, but you would have expected them to be good enough to win.
    The Netherlands really need to get maximum points from the remaining games if they want to win the Group and go to the semi-finals.
    England not firing on all cylinders as the League as not started yet and English clubs are still in pre-season, alongside many Scottish players who play in the WSL. 2-1 win for the Lionesses


    Group A2
    France struggled to defeat Portugal 2-0 with a late second goal. Herve Renard has decided to raise the players fitness level and also do more S&C as our players were not good enough in that department compared to other countries, but this has lead to a lot less creativity on the ball from the players.

    Good result for Austria drawing in Norway.

    Group A3
    Denmark beat Germany 2-0. Rumours of internal disagreement between players and staff and also between staff have hit the German papers after the world cup failure. Great result for Denmark.
    Iceland defeated Wales 1-0 and these are precious points in the relegation battle.

    Group A4
    Spain defeated Sweden 3-2 and will go top of the FIFA ranking next time as per the FIFA ranking thread. For all the off the field mess, Spain are incredibly resilient and are looking strong.
    Italy won 1-0 away in Switzerland and again three precious points in the relegation battle.


    A reminder that it is critical for teams in League A to stay up as next season are the Euro qualifiers and the top two teams in each A group qualify directly for the tournament, while League B and C teams can qualify via the play-offs.

    League B teams also have a huge incentive to win their Group and be promoted to League A and have a shot at direct qualification for the euros.
     
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  21. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Excellent recap, thank you! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
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  22. Ethan Frank

    Ethan Frank Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Jun 11, 2019
    The Dutch also don’t have their best CB anymore. I rate Dijkstra, but Van der Gragt wouldn’t have lost the duel for Belgium’s equalizer like that. Dijkstra also allowed Fon to recover the ball with close to no pressure in the build up to the winning corner.

    This match was kind of like the 1-0 win vs Portugal where the Dutch were largely dominant but couldn’t finish more of their chances. They didn’t have Van der Gragt and Van Domselaar helping with keeping a clean sheet though. Belgium did close to nothing offensively, but they were gifted two goals to win the match.

    I think Egurrola for Roord would have made sense earlier, like around the 70th minute mark. However, going into the last 5 minutes plus stoppage time, I would have kept the Groenen-Roord midfield as it was.
     
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  23. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    Hope to see a replay of the match. Yea, there is no replacing Van der Gragt. When she put her body on you, you were stopped. And she was an outstanding header of the ball. Dijkstra apparently has other qualities, but if you aren't physical you are going to get beaten/out-muscled to balls, and goals often result from lost 1v1s. Hard to believe both keepers were out--and no word on why. Who knows--but a lousy loss.

    The 3-back again against England? I think Jonker is asking for trouble.
     
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  24. BIHfan

    BIHfan Member+

    Borussia Dortmund
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Oct 13, 2020
    This is only the first matchday, it's too early to call.
     

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