UEFA Women's Euro 2022 - General Discussion

haha really? I knew it was weird, but I thought it was still clear what I was suggesting. Sorry for any confusion! Did you want clarification? (or just dismissing it )

 

Not sure which one: tempted by both options!

 

Who is playing in Group C? If there is a Group C there should also be a Group A and a Group B. Who is playing there?

 

Group C is the only one directly affected by Russia's suspension; none of groups A, B, or D have lost a team.

The idea was we have 3 teams left in group C, and three playoff losers. 6 teams = 3 games per matchday, with one "cross-group" match between existing teams from group C and and "shadow group". As a potential setup:

MD1 - NEDvSWE, SUIvPOR, CZEvUKR
MD2 - SWEvSUI, NEDvUKR, PORvCZE
MD3 - SUIvNED, SWEvCZE, UKRvPOR

The second match in each of those triples would count for points in group C, while the third match in each triple counts for the "shadow group" standings. If the "shadow group" teams collectively earn enough points in those three crossover matches, (as if they're functioning like a single team within group C,) then the winner of the "shadow group" moves on.

 

Ok, now that I somehow grasped the idea, maybe I should have directly gone with "dismissing it".

My main point is: with so many intricacies and so few "direct rewards" to single clashes, what does make you think that this would be a particularly fair set up to the teams originally in group C? (Or for those in the "shadow group", for that matter: what, for instance, if Portugal win their match vs Switzerland, but badly lose in the shadow group matches; meanwhile let's say Czech Republic win another cross-point and the shadow group itself and they advance on the back of Portugal's win: no questions? ).

 

So you want this:
NED v SWE 1:1
SWE v SUI 1:1
SUI v NED 0:3

SUI v POR 1:2
NED v UKR 8:0
SWE v CZE 1:1

CZE v UKR 1:1
POR v CZE 0:0
UKR v POR 1:1

1. NED 7 12-1
2.Shadow 4 3-10
3.SWE 3 3-3
4.SUI 1 2-6

Shadow group
1.UKR 2 2-2
2. POR 2 1-1
3. CZE 2 1-1

Netherlands and Ukraine in the quarterfinal!

 

A little more articulated, but it was basically my same objection: do we really want a team to advance by never beating an original and legitimately qualified group team and by someway topping a group of non-qualified teams, on the back of a random win by another non-qualified team?

 

It isn't a dumb idea but it feel like it is a bit much impact in the drawing of lots who gets who in the meetings between C and shadow.
But that's is not much of a problem as any team losing against either Czech Republic, Portugal or Ukraine do not have anything to do in the QF anyway.

But I think to just have a quick three team tournament to decide who get the spot would have been faster and easier (could even add a 4th to make it more standard, Slovenia is the team that would have been 2nd in group A with no Russia so the last team with any claim).
But that would mean acting fast and that do not seem to be on UEFA's agenda, seem they prefer to wait and hope any reason to forgive Russia and take them back in or maybe they just want to minimize the risk that the replacement are able to prepare properly.

 

I reckon at the last minute they will announce Portugal at the last minute

 

Good point: is there a scheduled release date?

 

It's gonna be the last one from Panini in 2020's

Big news....

Panini has LOST the contract with UEFA to be the stickers for Euro 2024 and Euro 2028, among others.

Topps to take over.https://t.co/loIH7Vd5gF

— Dale Johnson (@DaleJohnsonESPN) April 6, 2022

 

Panini is sacred for me. Why?

 

I see that not only Ukrainian top-referee Kateryna Monzul, that is currently hosted by Italian Federation, is listed, but also her lineswoman Maryna Striletska (not sure if she could also keep up with her activity lately and where ).

 

Yes Sara! Speak up!

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/61149365

 

Hadn't really thought much about the venue situation--but I completely agree with Gunnarsdottir. England have all these EPL stadiums--and yet only one is being used for Group Stage matches? I get that you may not fill a 70K stadium but UEFA seems to have essentially chosen a bunch of junior venues for most of the games. That is insulting.

 

According to the FA's site, the Academy Stadium seats 7k instead of 4.7k... But that's splitting hairs. I totally agree that anything under 10k is insulting by itself, as is using "academy" stadiums. Like, even if you think EPL stadiums are too big for most matches, it would be better to use the mid-size EFL Championship stadia instead of EPL "academy" venues.

It's especially baffling considering they didn't know what teams would land in which stadia from the draw. I mean, what would have happened if the draw saw Germany-Spain happen in one of the two smallest stadia for the tournament? Heck, even the 17k venue that match landed in is probably too small for that match. And then they've forced France-Italy into a 12k venue... Ridiculous

 

They have about 20 stadiums in England alone that can go 20k to 30k and a dozen more that does 30k and up to 40k.

 

The capacity is reduced due to the large press section at these events. The many rows of TV commentators eat up a lot of space alone, which makes it even more ridiculous to select a 7000 seats stadium for a match in these finals.