It is quite pathetic the way Uefa represents itself, they pretend that they are nice people and all European Clubs are respected. What a load of crap! Uefa hates Israel so much they don't want to let them play at home because Israel is a target for terrorism and because of that Maccabi Haifa has to suffer. I am a right-wing Israeli and frankly I hope Uefa and their headquaters get bombed. Why does Europe have to be so Pro Arabs and Palestinans. In my book they are the biggest bunch of anti-semites going around. Israel will never be allowed to play at home if these clowns are in power. Israel has terrrific security and if they say that they are safe to host a match then they know what they are talking about.
Agreed!!! They know that Israel has better security than most of Europe, but they tend not to allow the games to go ahead in Israel, because they fear it will cause a stir. No one has ever thought in Spain, of the possiblity if a major powehouse like Valencia would come to Israel! Alot of there fans as well as the media, politicans and radical activists would hold ceremonies boycotting the team! Wether if they like to go or not is not a question. Most teams i think would not be stupid and come in there own will. They want to win, and i think its an advantage to have 2 'home' games if not, a 1.5 home advantage. It's still good. Its all good. Moreover, there was signs of getting back to normal and peace, but it seems that UEFA idea of peace and quiet is when there is another peace agreement with the arabs. And in my calculation, it will take another 5-7 years for that to happen. so im hoping that the games will come back, but as of now, will be abroad as usuall. The fact that many in Europe, especially in the heads of major Football clubs, the UEFA committe have alot of political power as well, play a major role too. The Hypocrisy has got to end! For over a year now, israel has not alloweed the opportunity to give host to a game and i think it makes israel look stupid and makes israeli soccer fans feel that they are being punished because Europe see's banning israel from games as a tool to punish israel for what its doing. Eventhough many teams might have different political views like Maccabi Haifa or Hapoel Tel Aviv. In the end the fans of israel are being punished because, there israelis, there hard loving fans of europe and soccer and there jewish, which stings alot of europeans, hence..the recent poll that suggest Israel & jews are a threat.. Hitler started with it, and the new Europe will try to end it.....pathetic!! The fact that English matches were threatened to be terrorized by IRA and Islamic extremist (Just recently the arrest of a 24 year old muslim wanted to attack a chelsea home match) proves that English soccer is vulnerable to attacks, but why should they ban games? England is much more valuable then israel, right? Than again, In Spain, Basque Father Land and Liberty group, better known as the ETA, packs a 140 kg bomb in a car and blows it up near a UEFA, YES A UEFA match between barcelona and real madrid, yet...They never cancelled or even posponded the game. Even though some fans were slighly hurt in the attack and the aim or the goal was to disrupt and hurt (kill at most) Spanish soccer fans. If im wrong here, and it was not the aim, then they would probably be trying to attack the local hot dog vendors or vendors selling illegal counterfeit items of the club....... Yes! I agree! Israel does have good security! But then again, UEFA is in charge, not Israel. Israel is trying to pull off anything in its powers to let the games go on, but its powers are not as poweful. Its not the first time that israel wasn't allowed games to play. When we were at the Asian federation of football, we were having problems palying matches and club games cause of the rise of Arab Football associations and there quest to arabtize all of the asian football leauge. They did so and made us less likely to be alloweed to play and be allowed to qualify...so that is one of the big obstacles we had. So by proxy, the UEFA issue is nothing compared the the 1970's Asian Football issue that we encountered!
He can speak his mind, but when he posts the following you have to write him off as nothing more than a silly joke.
It is a fact that Europe is extremely anti-semetic. I guess they like to be on the side of people who regularly strap bombs to themselves to kill as many innocent people as possible. And during gunfights they push their own children into the line of fire to make the Israelis seem cruel. I guess that kind trickery works on the Europeans...
Your a goof ball. Much like the rest of the ADL and its retards. IN case you didnt get it Israel is in UEFA in the first place as a gift. Maybe you should get back to where you belong. Swimming with the fishes along with that fat ass leader terrorist, Sharone.
Agreed!!! Did any of you over sensitive terrorists stop to think that you are philo-semetic and Israeli-supremists??? Sharone is walking around with his barbaric attitude thinking its 1967 all over agin. WHo you gonna blame this time.. The third Reich? I am tired of watching the world suck the nuts of every little Israel who thinks the world is out to get him. IF you idiots are gonna come on here talking smack like this your going to get it back. Like I said all along "The middle east should be a parking lot for Europe!" Sounds about as stupid as your "Europe is antisemitic!" YOu can take that whiney the world is antisemtic trump card and stick it in your ass!!
I wonder if MeridianFC is gonna give you two yellow cards for attacking Europeans much like he gave me a red for doing the same to me to my semtic remarks!!! Probably not because he is a double standard moderator piece of *#*#*#*#!!! Well where are their yellow cards. Or am I gonna have to have my attorney give you a nice ring and explains the rules of our great nation??? Cmon give this little anti-euopean hebrew a yellow card!?!? Lets go tough guy?? You knew how to give me one!!
Re: Re: Uefa Is So Anti-israel Agree in principle.. he did go over it... whats uefa office in Switzerland bombed to bitz and pieces goona do? Ban Israel for good?
Did you ever stop once and think that your Croatian Grandparents were infact involved heavily in the third Reich and the Nazi state of Germany?? Did you ever think that Croatia, which you soo call your wonderous nation...once was a 2nd nazi state to adolf hitler? And the fact that i am curious about is how cocky and moronic, Croatians who have there blood vains dripping with nazi past go on and on about how to annhilate israel... or better yet to say...how would the ustasha's try that... don't be alarmed...we know all about your Croatian Nazi past.. Especially, when my backround is of Serbian..
Let's also not forget that Austria did a little gamesmanship during World Cup Qualifying by delaying the final match till Israel couldn't concentrate anymore. Because of the hotel and the kitchens being Kosher and of shabbis on Saturdays. The Poor 2nd class Germans were going to find a way to cry and whine about certain things that they felt were not good for their players. They should have known that the Israel Football Association was gonna accomidate them in many ways. Danks81: I have to say sir that you are totally blind by what has gone on in Europe. Sad enough that yes most of Europe is anti-semetic. Even in Football. When Maccabbi Hafia was in the Champions League as the first Israel club where was all of their home matches played? Out side of Haifa and outside of Israel. The recent bombings of shuls in Turkey, last year or two. A bunch of French hooligans attacked a school with a youth jewish football side in France. Do I agree with Falafal22 about taking out the Offices of UEFA in Switzerland with a bomb? No. But there has to be something done to make things better and an even playing field for Israel and UEFA to have peace. Return Israel to the Asian Confederation and it's going to be alot worse for Israels players in Club tournaments and National Team matches for Asian Cup & World Cup Qualifying. It would be nice to see FIFA maybe just interfere on this matter.
This is laughable, being critical of Israel does not automatically equal being anti-semetic. I hate to break it to you, but the victim-act is growing really tiresome. What do you want? Uncle Sam-esque financial subsidies? Look, Uefa isn't going to do didely squat until things improve in Israel, so deal with it. Don't like it? Maybe Concacaf will take you in...
You don't know that. I'm Croatian and I had one grandparent fighting with Tito and another dodging getting drafted by all sides. I wouldn't be bringing up old scores if I were you then. Would you like to be connected to the murder and ethnic clensing of the Albanians in the 20's, late 40's and late 90's, for example? You don't understand. It doesn't matter if they have better security - it matters if there is a greater chance of teams or fans getting killed by bombs.
Israel was more than ready for the game. It had the right line up and it kept going back again and again. I think that it was pretty fustrated that the game was being moved. Austria was trying to show that Israel was not able to host a game caus eits unsafe when many people including you and the majority of the European sports fanatics know that Austria main goal was to distract israel from the game and do whatever possible to make the game more accomadating for a win, cause it was pretty impossible. Its not that easy to win a game in israel now-a-days. And the hotel kosher thing is rubbish. The Austrian Embassy later felt so embarrassed that they cooked a meal for the players in the Austrian embassy 15 minutes from where they were, tinfoiled it so it can be hot and warm and sent it out. To have 9 players refusing to play, was hurtful, cause i think it showed that if a team needs to go to israel, than players might refuse...and make an ordeal out of it, which hurts not only israel soccer, but israel as well. Yes! The last few years in europe has been bad for jewish people living there and for Jewish people traveling there. The level of hatred towards jews has grown and has become very hostile. France is an example, because France once used to be a very creative and enjoyable place for jews to live. Than the Islamic invasion came and brought 5 million muslims, most who are angry and live in the ghettos of Marseille, Lyon, Paris and elsewhere. They are fustrated that they might have an extreme right wing government who hates them and there fustrated at everyone. So they take it at the jews. European politics for one, sees that what happened in 1938 to 1945 is not as much and that what happened, happened and now there is nothing to compare with israel. People in Europe think they got the green light to attack israel and to forget about what happened there 60 years ago. Its sad and very un-imaginable, but the thing that hurts more is that they let Israel play in Europe in 1992. They let them host games, and they let them excel, and now they see terrorism, some which affects them completely, and they back off from israel and think its a threat. Fans in Israel don't know whos punished. Israel for being ingulfed by terrorism or Israel striking against terrorism and seeing that it is not right and very wrong? I don't agree with what Falafel22 stated, but i guess he is pertaining the emotions that many israelis have towards UEFA. Many don't see them as a way to save Israel soccer from a terrorist attack. Infact, there making things worse. Letting games be in Turkey makes the risk even greater since you have a team of about 50+ staff and players in turkey...and you have around 1000 to 10,000 fans coming to a game. I fear that one day when we play a broad, a terrorist group or someone who doesn't like israel will attack and fataly kill our fans cause not all 10,000 fans have security gaurds. Returning Israel to Asian cup is bad in 2 things, because a majority of Asian groups are arab and there is a sense of hostility towards israel. Moreover, israel will be again left alone and even banned completely since they are Israel and there is no peace as we speak. And lastly, Israel level has risen ever since it was inducted in Europe. We see ourselves playing the Superpowers of the world and we love it. Sometimes we may win a game and our level rises dramatically. We still like to be in it. As for FIFA, Fifa has promised israel that all WC 2006 games will be held in Israel. The reason is that UEFA doesn't control WC and FIFA does and the president of FIFA came to israel and said that. He is friendly to israel and eventhough our group is europe, no one can do anything about it. They either come or they lose important points!
Im just fed up with Croatians. Each one that i talk with is anti-israel and doesn't really talk much about the Croatian past. Many of them are against israel, and i think that it is because of the media, but i think that its not fair that Croatia shows some this sort of remorse against Israel, when what happened in the past is hard. I do understand that some were part of Tinto groupo and supported the nazis while some were partizans and fought against it. But Croatia at whole support the Nazi war machine and many jews lost there lives in the Yugoslav Republic due to Ustasha War Crimes. Moroever, in the early 1990's Croatia used jew's to play out what happened in the balkans in WW2 and even forged jewish leaderrs in Croatia to say that it is safe place for jewish people and Serbian are hurting them..... Till this date, Israel has still allowing FIBA basketball games to go on in Israel. Sometimes in Jerusalem, Haifa, and Tel Aviv. Teams from all over Europe come to Israel and play matches in Israeli soil and have the right measure of security and in the end not one threat of terror lummed over the year in the game. There is no fear. The reason is that FIBA made no fear. Fiba allowed the games to go ahead, cause comparing UEFA, Israel is one of the top countries in FIBA. UEFA in my opinion sees that israel is not much and don't allow games, cause there not as great value as Germany, Spain, Portugal, France or England. How can Basketball games be played in israel still safely, over 30 games played since the ban and not one incident and yet.. Still to this date UEFA has not let israel play a single game since 2002? I only guess that Soccer players are worth more than basketball players......who knows?
UEFA's now taken a stand in Turkey as well. Perhaps UEFA is anti-Southern Europe? Fans in Italy claim UEFA is anti-Italian because of bans to teams there for racist comments. Man United claims FIFA are anti-Man United. Where was UEFA in 1996 when Milosevic's team was battling in Europe, while his army was battling in Yugoslavia? What about the harsh fan ban and points penalty handed out to Hungarian side Ferencvaros? I think UEFA/FIFA must do what it can to encourage a return to normalization. Losing a home soccer game here or there because of greater societal violence or racism is a small price to pay, if it forces people to confront their actions, rather than scapegoat.
The ban is a mixture of protecting the calm and allowing games to be in neutral area and also to make us as scapegoats at times
Let me get this straight. Any criticism of the state of Israel is anti-semitism? The realization that the State of Israel is NOT SAFE is anti-semitism? Can you honestly argue that it is safer to play a soccer match of immense scale in Israel, over a neutral site? I could care less who you guys think are anti-semitic, because frankly, in your narrow minds the whole world should bow down before you (just look at the ridiculous statements you guys have made, bombing the headquarters of UEFA? you would think the deaths of other Israelis would make you a little more sympathetic and careful in your statements, I guess it does not matter to you though). You guys are lucky that the US is bankrolling the state of Israel. In other words my TAX MONEY is going to protect you guys, and what do you guys do with it? You have created an apartheid state. We can all agree that the Islamic fundamentalists are wrong (the destruction of innocent life through terrorist actions is unjustifiable, military targets are a whole different story), but your actions are just as wrong and evil. Especially, when considering that your leader, now a champion of peace, has more then enough blood on his hands to be considered a terrorist. If you guys don't like UEFA, go back to the Asian Confederation. I don't think anyone would care if you stayed or left.
Whats the problem with this poll? Who thinks that the Palestinian-conflict is not a thread to world-peace is stupid. But why does this author say this poll is anti-semitic?? As long as Isrealic people don´t stop understanding themselfs as Jews, but as Isralics or better as humans like anyone else, there is no chance of making their image in the world better. I´m an atheist and don´t care about religion. If I think about Israel I think about its policy and not it´s main religion and this policy is far from being peaceful since Ísrael exist, so they don´t have to start crying if there are people fighting for their survival. But to make this not a post for the politics-forum: UEFA is not Anti-Israelic. They just have the responsibility for the safety of their members and Israel can´t guarantee that. A football game is a huge OPEN AIR-event and that makes it a lot more dangerous than a Basketball-game. The UEFA even replaced the games of the turkish clubs and there it was the first terroristic-attack in Istanbul since I don´t know when. And I don´t think there is any safer place for a football-match than Malta so it makes sense to let the games be played there.