UEFA in danger of losing World Cup slots?

Discussion in 'World Cup 2014: General' started by zahzah, Jun 22, 2014.

  1. Tukafo

    Tukafo Member+

    Oct 12, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    My take on this debate is that it's perfectly possible for UEFA to lose spots at some point in the future if the current FIFA regime continues. UEFA have publicly declared that they no longer support Blatter so Sepp will get his support elsewhere. And he will make lots of nice promises that get him votes.
    The real question is whether all of this will at some point hurt the World Cup. People just assume that it will always be this massive global event full of sponsors and huge TV revenue. But could there be a point when major revenue markets will lose interest in the World Cup and turn their focus on the immensly popular Champions League? Let's face it, club football is of a higher standard than the football we're seeing in Brazil and South Africa. The reasons are obvious - top club teams have no weaknesses because they can endlessly buy the best talent. No team at this World Cup has been able to match the passing game or the skill of top club sides. And that's the danger longterm for FIFA - they simply assume that the World Cup will always be huge no matter who plays in it and no matter who does well in it. But that may not be the case. Who are the major markets for TV revenue and sponsoring? Britain, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, USA, Korea and Japan. What do these countries have in common? Many of them are doing poorly at this World Cup and it's perfectly possible that only France and Germany make it to the R16. If this trend were to continue then what incentive do sponsors in those countries have to keep spending big? Nike pay a fortune to sponsor England and they get nothing in return and are constantly associated with failure. Will Hyundai really keep spending massive amounts in sponsoring just to watch a Costa Rica - Algeria semifinal? You may say that's the big nations' own fault for crashing out so early but has anybody really asked themselves the question of why Spain are really so poor at this Cup considering the amazing standard of play of the Spanish players? Perhaps international football isn't as important for many European players anymore as it used to be.
     
  2. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    I don't buy that. NT football is a different proposition from club football. Players play for their national pride, for their flag, for their fellow citizens. That's not the same as the overly commercialized Champions League. The real danger is TV and sponsorship money leaving the WC for EC.
     
  3. Sandinista

    Sandinista Member+

    Apr 11, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    Racing Club de Avellaneda
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I don't think sponsors care that much about the quality of the game in a particular competition rather than the market that competition is able to attract.

    And WC, even if the games are utter crap (which is not the case in this one, btw), will always have a bigger market than the Champions...
     
    canis repped this.
  4. Tukafo

    Tukafo Member+

    Oct 12, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    I agree that the matches in this WC have so far been very exciting but have they really been of the highest quality? Teams have been barely able to keep the ball for more than a few passes and most of the successful teams so far have been counterattacking sides. Holland won a difficult group basically by endlessly playing hopeful long balls to Robben. Sure, if you do this 30 times per match a few of those balls will invariably reach him but is that really great football in terms of quality?
     
  5. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    Is this a testament to other teams not being able to stop it? And if no one can stop it, why try anything else? Perhaps, if the Dutch are no longer able to succeed this way they will utilize flanks better? Or any other tactic?
     
  6. rios

    rios Member

    Jun 9, 2006
    Club:
    Villarreal CF
    US has enough money not to let that happen ever:alien:
     
  7. Tukafo

    Tukafo Member+

    Oct 12, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Exactly. Other teams are not good enough so far to find a weapon against it. Exactly my argument about the lack of quality. Try and play endless long balls against Bayern Munich or Real Madrid or PSG or Chelsea or Atletico. You won't succeed.
     
  8. Football Lover NYC

    Aug 21, 2008
    My Room
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    African teams always get talked about right before every WC about how good they are and almost always crash out in the group stage. If any confederation should lose a spot it's CAF.
     
  9. maxsanta

    maxsanta Member

    Colo Colo
    Netherlands
    Dec 2, 2009
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    with disgusting teams like greece and bosnia maybe, but the real clowns have been the asian teams
     
  10. Waliatiger

    Waliatiger Member+

    Jul 1, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Yet four out of 5 CAF teams have a legit chance of going to the round of 16 asshat.
     
  11. El_tri321mex

    El_tri321mex Member

    Oct 20, 2006
    berkeley
    why the h
    Why the hell will USA leave ?
     
  12. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    Bosnia is actually a very decent team. They were unlucky against Argentina and simply robbed against Nigeria.
     
  13. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    Ghana's chance is less than legit.
     
  14. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    So, that's not a knock on Netherlands, right?
     
  15. Waliatiger

    Waliatiger Member+

    Jul 1, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nigeria earned that win! They came to play for 90 minutes Bosnia collapsed mentally after the no call. A first time team with no mental strength.
     
  16. Waliatiger

    Waliatiger Member+

    Jul 1, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    A USA loss to Germany 0-2 and a Ghana win over a weak Portugal 2-1 it is very legit
     
  17. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    No, they didn't. Had Bosnia's goal counted, this would have been a different game. Both teams accumulated similar number of shots, similar time of possession. Nigeria was extremely lucky.
     
  18. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    For that Ghana needs to beat Portugal AND hope that Germany beats US by at least 2. Neither of these is automatic. And the former is not higher than 50/50.
     
  19. Waliatiger

    Waliatiger Member+

    Jul 1, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    True Ghana chances to advance are 25% but Germany will beat the USA.
     
  20. "Eisenfuß" Eilts

    Jul 1, 2005
    In the sun ;)
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    At the climate conditions the Dutch tactics is well chosen. Same with the Belgium one.
    There is a reason UEFA sides also struggled in the past at WCs in Central or South America,
    at least the Dutchies and Belgium adopted their tactics to the conditions.
     
  21. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

    Jun 7, 2000
    Baltimore
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Gibraltar
    I don't buy any of this ... Sounds like a lot of speculation based on no evidence

    If players didn't care then nobody is forcing them to play international. They could be sitting on a beach in Ibiza saving their energy for club football. As for sponsors pulling out? For every loser there is a winner. If some country's NT starts losing its popularity with its citizens there's probably another country somewhere else where it's rising because they beat that first country.

    Do you really think there are sponsors out there that can't afford to get involved with club soccer because international soccer takes up too much of their time? Most of these sponsors are involved with club soccer too. I'm not sure that it's necessarily one vs. another.

    Bottom line is that the WC will continue to matter as long as it matters to fans. People around the world are still watching and I'm not sure I'm seeing any evidence that these events are losing popularity.
     
  22. Football Lover NYC

    Aug 21, 2008
    My Room
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Because they pay the most in TV rights for the WC out of any other country which is where Fifa gets it's income
     
  23. Football Lover NYC

    Aug 21, 2008
    My Room
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    That's yet to be seen, and even if they do past, so what? One good World Cup showing does not make up for how historically bad most African teams have been in past WCs, heck in 2010 only 1 country from Africa made it passed the group stage when the tournament was held on the AFRICAN continent. :whistling:
     
  24. Shuren

    Shuren New Member

    Dec 22, 2013
    Quevedo
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
     
    zahzah repped this.
  25. abby sunnya

    abby sunnya New Member

    Jun 24, 2014

Share This Page