UEFA Euro 2024: England Tournament Thread [R]

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  1. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    If you're ever being held hostage and you want to send a coded message, spell Guéhi correctly and we'll all know something's up. Police at your door in 10 minutes flat.
     
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  2. Wendigo7

    Wendigo7 Member+

    Bournemouth
    England
    Mar 31, 2015
    Poole
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Rover that is an odd spelling :eek::laugh:
     
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  3. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    There was one game specifically where Fulham beat Brighton 2-1 and Fulham's two goals came from Mitrovic and Dunk. :ROFLMAO:

    I get the theory behind putting Dunk on Mitrovic stylistically though. It's probably what's gonna happen if Stones isn't fit so let's cross our fingers.
     
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  4. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Mitrovic will have lost a bit of sharpness playing In Saudi Arabia
     
  5. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #2930 Fireburn47, Jun 12, 2024
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    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/06/12/john-stones-sickness-bug-doubt-england-vs-serbia/
    Rooney worried by England's youthful squad at Euro 2024

    By Mike McGrath in Blankenhain

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    Wayne Rooney fears England's inexperience may harm their chances at Euro 2024 and insists Trent Alexander-Arnold should not be “anywhere near the middle of the pitch”.

    The former England captain compared Gareth Southgate’s youthful squad to his 2004 tournament, when he was the youngest but surrounded by experienced internationals. Southgate’s squad has 169 fewer caps than the 26-man squad that went to the World Cup.

    Alexander-Arnold is an option for Southgate in midfield alongside Declan Rice, with youngsters Kobbie Mainoo and Adam Wharton also in the squad along with Conor Gallagher.

    “I think he’ll go with Trent. I think he’s probably the most gifted player with the ball at his feet we’ve got. Defensively, he’s all over the place. He can’t defend. I wouldn’t have him anywhere near the middle of the pitch. And I love Trent,” said Rooney on the Overlap podcast with former England team-mate Gary Neville.

    Southgate dropped Jordan Henderson from his squad and also left behind Marcus Rashford, who has 60 caps, while Raheem Sterling has not been in his plans all season. Harry Maguire is also missing through injury, John Stones through illness, while Luke Shaw misses the start of the tournament

    “On the backline, there’s not many caps between the players,” said Rooney. “I had it when I first signed for Manchester United, you get to finals and ends of tournaments, we’re looking at the lads that have been there and won trophies.

    “They keep you calm and get you through it. That’s my worry for England. I think they’ll breeze through the group stages but when they come up against good teams that are going to be a real threat to them, I think that lack of experience might harm us.

    “Where now you’ve got Guehi, you’ve got Konsa, Mainoo, Wharton - the amount of players that have barely played, Cole Palmer, Eze. So many players and what will happen naturally is they will probably stick together and then when it starts getting tough, they’ll be talking, going, ‘What do we do?’”




     
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  6. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021

     
  7. Fullerov

    Fullerov Member

    Bristol Rovers
    Nov 30, 2004
    Club:
    Bristol Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Or alternatively say something like "I'm actually quite relaxed about Wales capping English born League One players"
     
  8. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    #2933 MrSnrub, Jun 13, 2024
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    I don't rate particularly Dunk and indeed i've long questioned his place in the squad but some of the wider conversation around him is getting very hyperbolic. He's not THAT bad, he's a solid premier league centre half. I'd have doubts against him against the best sides but he shouldn't be so bad he's going to crater England's chances against anyone as seems to be the current narrative.

    He does have an error in him for sure but he's at least genuinely good on the ball and solid in the air. Reminds me a bit of when Mings was going to be starting centre back at the last Euro's with Maguire injured, and while he had his faults the histrionics about how bad he actually was got very out of hand.

    That to say nothing of how their old academy players like Nelson and Smith-Rowe are kept around in career limbo without ever getting any minutes, though clearly that is on the players as well.
     
  9. Inter Row Z

    Inter Row Z Member+

    Oldham Athletic
    England
    Mar 26, 2023
    Rover, being held hostage? Crikey, which sensitive fan base has he upset now?
     
  10. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Depending on the line up it’s possible no players with senior tournament playing experience are on the bench at all on Sunday. When you think that at the 2022 World Cup Callum Wilson was the only player brought off the bench without tournament experience - with the two goalies, Maddison, White, Coady and Gallagher unused throughout.
     
  11. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     
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  12. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Liverpool and England defender Joe Gomez, 27, is a target for Bundesliga club Bayern Munich. (Mirror), external

    Chelsea are thinking about offering a new deal to 24-year-old England midfielder Conor Gallagher, who is wanted by Aston Villa and Tottenham. (Guardian), external

    Chelsea are considering making a move for Bournemouth and England striker Dominic Solanke, 26, this summer. (HITC)

    West Ham are interested in Wolves' Max Kilman, 27, but the English defender could cost in the region of £45m. (Mail)

    Ivan Toney is ready to get a celebratory tattoo of the European Championship trophy on his head should England win the tournament in Germany. (The Sun)

    Serbia fans are expected to boo England's national anthem in Gelsenkirchen on Sunday because of NATO bombings of the former Yugoslavia during the Kosovo war in 1999. (The Sun)

    Everton defender Ben Godfrey could leave the club for free next summer after turning down a series of contract offers - AC Milan and Borussia Dortmund have already shown interest. (The Sun)

    Euro 2024 will not use the same stoppage-time rules enforced by FIFA and the Premier League which have regularly led to games going beyond 100 minutes. (The Times)

    Wayne Rooney does not believe Trent Alexander-Arnold has the discipline to be an international central midfielder. (Daily Mirror)
     
  13. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    I agree he's a solid Premier League defender, but I still think there's enough reason to be very worried about him against Serbia if he starts. He has a history of struggling against top-end strikers and someone like Dusan Vlahovic is well above the average level of number 9s in the Premier League. I think there's also some concern about how he deals with the weight of the stage, given how he's coped when asked to step up at times this season.
     
  14. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    With Stones back training fhe likelihood is we won’t see him starting at least. Maybe he or Konsa will come on as a sub.
     
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  15. Nothing convincing - but a couple of Wharton mentions from Andy Dunne and Miguel Delaney




    https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...o-2024-preview-gareth-southgate-b2561757.html
    Southgate has meanwhile been going back and forth on what midfield to play. There have been suggestions Adam Wharton could go from a surprise call-up to a certain starter.
     
  16. Fullerov

    Fullerov Member

    Bristol Rovers
    Nov 30, 2004
    Club:
    Bristol Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Basically it sounds like no-one knows for certain.

    Is that not good? Keep Serbia guessing?
     
  17. Fullerov

    Fullerov Member

    Bristol Rovers
    Nov 30, 2004
    Club:
    Bristol Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I think he was talking about Dunk.
     
  18. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Big error in that article. Trippier has been in every tournament squad as well. Trent almost was but missed the last Euros after he get injured after it was announced.

    I would be shocked if Wharton started on Sunday. Trent seems the favourite followed by Gallagher then Mainoo then him.
     
  19. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    I'm not worried about the CBs so much as the shield in front of them. Depending on Mainoo or TAA to protect the back four in transition would worry me. I quite dislike Gallagher as a footballer in general, but I wouldn't be upset to see him start. This thing about getting Rice forward needs to go away as well.
     
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  20. Khadrim

    Khadrim Member

    Jul 30, 2011
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Am I the only one worried about Serbia? Their attack looks potent on paper. Tadic supplying Mitrovic. They played some neat stuff at the world cup, but suffered from trying to walk it into the goal a bit.
     
  21. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
  22. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    It's really hard to say without having seen much of them but on paper they've got quite a lot of talent. On top of the attacking talent their two young midfielders Ilic and Samardzic are meant to be very good and are both seemingly being tracked by quite a few big clubs. I've heard a few people who I know actually watch Serbia tip them to be strong in this tournament.

    If we were in a league season with 19 other teams of Serbia/Denmark/Slovenia quality you wouldn't worry, but in these one-off games it's much easier to zone in on opponents' strengths. Even with our problems there's no excuse for not topping this group given our talent level but you just get funny results in tournaments.
     
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  23. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I am worried about every match. We never seem to do well when facing top strikers and all three of our group stage opponents have one.
     
  24. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Feb 8, 2020
    Worried wouldn't be the word I'd use, I've said this before but all teams at this level are dangerous. In the World Cup you had teams like Wales and USA who were desperate to beat us, and before that the last Euros a quality team like Croatia, and Scotland with there biggest game in 40 years.

    Every group game we've played in the last 6 years has been against teams that have pose a threat, this is no different. Hopefully the boys are switched on a ready for battle, if the are we can overcome Serbia and others in our group. If not we might struggle but that's always the case.
     
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  25. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    I can see Serbia being really up for the game on Sunday and probably being too excited and end up having a player sent off. They really dislike us so could see some wild challenges heading our way and trying to wind up our players. Cool heads will be needed….
     
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