UEFA Euro 2024 Draw Thread

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Nov 21, 2023.

  1. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Hojilund is probably going to score at the Euros as he does seem to be good at scoring in European competitions.

    Slovenia also have a good young scorer in Benjamin Sesko .
     
  2. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    His international goals have come against Finland, Kazakhstan, Slovenia and San Marino? None of those sides are ranked in the FIFA top 50. Last season for Atlanta he scored 8 goals with only one being against sides not in the bottom half of the table and this season he has 0 goals in the PL so far. He really does have it all to prove still.

    As an aside, San Marino only lost 1-2 in that Game against Denmark which is probably their greatest ever result. Not sure if they’ve held any side in the FIFA top 20 to a 1 goal defeat before.
     
  3. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    #78 Ceres, Dec 3, 2023
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2023

    I don't think that Denmark ever have had a 20-yo striker scoring 7 goals and making 1 assist in 8 Euro qualifiers for the NT in the past, like Højlund has (Harry Kane made 9 goals in 9 games in these qualifiers just for comparison) , not to forget that Højlund is actually also the top goal-scorer in the Champions League right now, with a goal more than Bellingham, and Kane, with both he and kane being in the very same group, and with the same number of goals as Haaland, but with fewer minutes played. it's also quite clear that he is more individually skilled than Haaland, so I will be highly surprised if he won't be a success for United in the EPL as well, if not, he surely will for some other team at the top of the table at some point in the future. The challenge right now is playing and being a success in both the EPL and Champions League at the same time, because he will get rested and skipping games either here or there.

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  4. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    The Euro's are just too watered down. You can finish 3rd and still get through just for the sake of having an extra Knock out round.
     
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  5. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    I mean I think it's a little bit hopeful comparing him so favourably to two players that are probably in the top 3 performing players in the world so far this season but if you like.
     
  6. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
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    This is the kind of generous interpretation of the numbers that you don't normally see outside of the American section of the forum. If 5 in 5 in the CL can prove he'll be elite, then 0 in 9 in the league can prove he's a flop. Of course, neither prove either.
     
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  7. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    #82 MrSnrub, Dec 3, 2023
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2023
    Denmark are a tough team to contextualize. They had a great few years going into the world cup 12 months ago and we're rightfully ranked in the top 10 in the world. But then they had an atrocious world cup. Hard to say one way or the other based on their group which is probably the statistically easiest qualifying group to ever exist in UEFA history (they were and are the only top 50 ranked team in the group).
     
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  8. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    And the team who came second was Slovenia. So we have both teams from that group.
     
  9. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Looking at our potential route to the final anything less than semi finals is an underachievement
     
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  10. RobTheFool

    RobTheFool Member+

    Apr 19, 2008
    London, England
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I'd agree, but If we do get through it will be a difficult QF against Italy/Spain/Croatia.
     
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  11. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark

    Here in Denmark we understand that being young and a success in both the league, Europe and for the NT at the same time can be quite a challenge, so to me 2 out of 3 is a success if you are only 20, especially because young players need rest, both physically and mentally.
     
  12. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    Well, Denmark in this WC was doomed in advance, because the Danish NT is very much about a "Viking" fighting spirit, and everyone around here seemed to agree that this specific WC was not worth fighting for, all considering.
     
  13. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    Slovenia was no challenge at all to Denmark when it really mattered in these qualifiers. So they are most likely going to finish last in this group, because Serbia seem vastly better on paper, though Serbia were beaten silly in the last Euro qualifiers by Denmark.
     
  14. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    #89 Ceres, Dec 10, 2023
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2023
    Højlund is going to be the next top striker for Denmark, no matter how big a success he become for United. Actually, the lack of a top quality striker has been the major weakness for Denmark for quite some years now, with Martin Braithwaite being a standing joke at Barcelona before moving on. The Danish NT is a strange entity, with Philip Billing who has just scored against United not really being considered good enough, while a 20-yo Højlund is now being considered to be one of the absolute key players by the NT coach.

    I also remember how Lord Bendtner became kind of a standing joke all over the World, though playing 108 games and scoring 24 goals for Arsenal between the age of 17 and 26, mainly playing as a winger and not as the striker he was for Denmark, where he was a huge success. He was all in with the infamous jokes and banter, and he actually became a real Lord in Scotland, when a tabloid purchased him some land and the title.
     
  15. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021


    Big blow for Austria in the Euros.
     
  16. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    We need to pray Bellingham makes it through this season; rate of ACL injuries at Madrid is scary. Gutting for Alaba.
     
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  17. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    We can only hope for no injuries

    But arguably do well without Bellingham as Maddison and Foden are both capable replacements, (There ade bigger gaps between Kane and Rice and their replacements).
     
  18. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    You're right but as good as Foden & Maddison are I still think all three are irreplaceable.
     
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  19. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Difficult but neither are France. I like England's chances against anybody besides France.
     
  20. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Not an easy group but England's favored for a reason.

    Serbia's heavily struggled to get out of groups historically despite their talent and Denmark isn't the same team from a few years ago, but can't take them lightly. Slovenia should be a win.

    Overall it's a rather fortunate group because if England plays a typical game for all three matches they should get at least 7 points and top it.
     
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  21. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     
  22. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Who are the Euros only having 23 players in squads when AFCON is having 27 and the Asia Cup 26?
     
  23. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    If I understand correctly, for AFCON, on Matchdays, only 23 players can be selected. They 4 players not selected go to the Pressbox to watch.
     
  24. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     
  25. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     

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