UEFA Euro 2020: England Tournament Thread [R]

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, May 14, 2021.

  1. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Of course, Rice and Mount are great mates so maybe that might help?

    Sometimes personal relationships can help as players are determined to try and cover for each other but, y'know... you can't just have people playing because their mates are. They have to be on the pitch because they're good enough to be there.
     
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  2. This whole back 3 idea of Walker-Stones-Shaw seems very convoluted - and an admission he's got his squad hopelessly wrong

    Is it any more of a gamble than just going with White and Stones in a 2?


    I'd go:

    Pickford
    Walker-Stones-White-Shaw
    Rice-Phillips
    Foden-Mount-Sterling
    Kane

    Any back 3 is just too much of a waste of our areas of strength, with potentially just 2 of Mount, Foden, Grealish, Sterling, Rashford, Sancho featuring - with the massive likelihood he wouldn't risk Mount in the midfield 2

    And a back 3 with 2 full-backs playing the wider roles looks superficially attractive, but seems a bit clever by half and doesn't put our best foot forward
     
  3. RobTheFool

    RobTheFool Member+

    Apr 19, 2008
    London, England
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Southgate has had two years to find a CB pairing but he's messed about with Keane and mings for far too long. I'd go for white and stones, if it is a back 3 (I hope not as I think Southgate will play with two DMs) it can't be two fullbacks in the 3. Tomori would have been a great shout
     
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  4. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    To be honest a back 3 would allow mount to play as well as foden and Graelish in free roles but I personally prefer a 4231

    ………….Kane

    …..graelish……foden

    ………mount….rice

    Chill…………::::::……Walker

    …….mings…coady…stones

    ………………Pickford

    it isn’t bad imo but it’s obviously better vs better sides when we expect to counter

    also, tomori should be in the squad. He’s bette than mings
     
  5. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    ????
     
  6. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    #1981 BarryfromEastenders, Jun 9, 2021
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2021
    Extended Grealish interview. Worth a listen if you have 20 mins spare.

     
  7. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    they are a really good team

    wouldn’t be a shock to see them in the last 4 at the very least
     
  8. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Just a joke. U typed something that sounded like achoo
     
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  9. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
  10. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    He did quite well for Dortmund throughout the season and in the Champions League. Why can't he handle so called "lesser competition" in a tournament for his country?
     
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  11. OllyAlex

    OllyAlex Member

    Mar 2, 2021
    Exactly
     
  12. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Welcome to the conversation that we've been talking about for over 6 months lol.

    I can live with Germany or Portugal since they're kind of defensive minded. As I've said, France scares the daylights out of me since they're solid in every position.
     
  13. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    #1988 TopBanana10, Jun 9, 2021
    Last edited by a moderator: Jun 9, 2021
    Your first point is laughably stupid... the police literally have recruitment days that are only open to BAME candidates.

    Secondly, you keep mentioning skin tone... you obviously have a problem with white people.

    ‘Red faced’ is a cheap dig at white people and you know it.

    ..........are all cheap racial digs... don’t sink to that level.
     
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  14. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Every England Euro 2020 qualifying goal -

     
  15. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    I’m just going to continue to get reports if people are making these slur comparisons.

    @TopBanana10 & @thebigman
    I’ve slightly edited both of your last posts so it doesn’t attract any more reactions from others reading.

    Time to move on from this gammon slur debate. Both made your stances on the issue known by now.
     
  16. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    B-b-but I had a rant prepared.
     
  17. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Anyone else get the impression that this is an unusually happy England camp? I keep catching inconsequential little videos like this one and they all just seem remarkably happy and relaxed. Maybe it's always like this beforehand and I've just forgotten...
     
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  18. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    If nothing else Southgate has done an excellent job of getting the mentality right in the squad, which shouldn't be underestimated given what went before him.
     
  19. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Southgate has done very well in this area but also the work we’ve done at youth level and having SGP as a hub has to really help. It’s just so much easier to build something of collective meaning.
     
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  20. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    The players just seem to love being there... look at Grealish’s reaction when asked and the way they set up his room.



    Love the way Trippier and Foden vibe here.
     
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  21. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC


    I see what Gareth is trying to do here, he’s trying to lure the opposition into a false sense of security that we have better centre half’s than Tomori so they go into the first game fearing our centre half’s. Could be a genius move :ninja:.

    On a serious note though, I do agree with Rebic, he should have been called up in my opinion for the reasons he stated.
     
  22. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    I wasn't surprised but I do think it looks increasingly like a mistake. Tomori isn't perfect but he is, if nothing else, a good defender on the left side of a centre-back pairing. We could have swapped him in for Maguire quite easily and avoided the need for all these conversations about system changes and convoluted line-ups.
     
  23. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Tomori is mikes better than mings
     
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  24. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Does anyone know if the England team were offered vaccines like the Dutch team was? Has to be a big worry what with cases rising in the UK again, and likely to be very high through the tournament.
     
  25. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC

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