UEFA Cup Draw

Discussion in 'UEFA and Europe' started by Hrvat, Aug 25, 2006.

  1. Hrvat

    Hrvat New Member

    Mar 27, 2005
    Zagreb, Croatia
    Here are the draw groups, the draw takes place in a couple of hours. Interesting to see England have two unseeded teams. Only the teams that are in the same group can play each other (seeded vs. unseeded, of course)

    Group 1: Seeded Unseeded
    Newcastle United FC (ENG) R. Standard de Liège (BEL)
    Rangers FC (SCO) SC Braga (POR)
    RC Celta de Vigo (ESP) Molde FK (NOR)
    Hapoel Tel-Aviv FC (ISR) FC Chornomorets Odesa (UKR)
    AC Chievo Verona (ITA) FC Levadia Tallinn (EST)


    Group 2: Seeded Unseeded
    Panathinaikos FC (GRE) Maccabi Haifa FC (ISR)
    Hertha BSC Berlin (GER) Legia Warszawa (POL)
    Paris Saint-Germain FC (FRA) FC Metalurg Zaporizhzhya (UKR)
    FK Austria Wien (AUT) Odense BK (DEN)
    PFC Litex Lovech (BUL) Derry City FC (IRL)


    Group 3: Seeded Unseeded
    FC Schalke 04 (GER) Heart of Midlothian FC (SCO)
    AC Sparta Praha (CZE) AS Nancy-Lorraine (FRA)
    FC Lokomotiv Moskva (RUS) SV Sulte Waregem (BEL)
    Fenerbahçe SK (TUR) FC Salzburg (AUT)
    Blackburn Rovers FC (ENG) Randers FC (DEN)


    Group 4: Seeded Unseeded
    Parma FC (ITA) FK Crvena Zvezda (SCG)
    AZ Alkmaar (NED) Eintracht Frankfurt (GER)
    RC Lens (FRA) FC Rubin Kazan (RUS)
    FC Slovan Liberec (CZE) Kayserispor (TUR)
    Brøndby IF (DEN) Ethnikos Achnas FC (CYP)


    Group 5: Seeded Unseeded

    Sevilla FC (ENG) PFC CSKA Sofia (BUL)
    Olympique de Marseille (FRA) Vitória FC (POR)
    Besiktas JK (TUR) Atromitos FC (GRE)
    SC Heerenveen (NED) FK Mladá Boleslav (CZE)
    Grasshopper-Club (SUI) Åtvidabergs FF (SWE)


    Group 6: Seeded Unseeded
    Feyenoord (NED) West Ham United FC (ENG)
    FC Basel 1893 (SUI) CD Nacional (POR)
    US Città di Palermo (ITA) Trabzonspor (TUR)
    AFC Rapid Bucuresti (ROU) PFC Lokomotiv Sofia (BUL)
    CA Osasuna (ESP) FK Rabotnicki (MKD)


    Group 7: Seeded Unseeded
    Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER) Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG)
    Club Brugge KV (BEL) FC Groningen (NED)
    SK Slavia Praha (CZE) Skoda Xanthi FC (GRE)
    FK Partizan (SCG) FC Sion (SUI)
    FC Dinamo 1948 Bucuresti (ROU) MFK Ružomberok (SVK)


    Group 8: Seeded Unseeded
    AFC Ajax (NED) NK Dinamo Zagreb (CRO)
    AJ Auxerre (FRA) FC Artmedia (SVK)
    RCD Espanyol (ESP) Iraklis FC (GRE)
    Wisla Kraków (POL) IK Start (NOR)
    AS Livorno Calcio (ITA) FCS Pasching (AUT)
     
  2. Hrvat

    Hrvat New Member

    Mar 27, 2005
    Zagreb, Croatia
    Odesa – Hapoel Tel Aviv
    Braga – Chievo Verona
    Levadia Tallin – Newcastle
    Molde – Rangers
    Standard – Celta

    Maccabi Haifa – Litex
    Derry City – PSG
    Hertha – Odense
    Legia Varšava – Austria Vienna
    Panathinaikos – Metalurg

    Lokomotiva Moskva – Waregem
    Sparta Prag - Hearts
    Fenerbahçe - Randers
    Salzburg – Blackburn
    Schalke - Nancy

    Achna – Lens
    Slovan Liberec – Crvena zvezda
    AZ - Kayserispor
    Rubin Kazan – Parma
    Brondby – Eintracht

    Atromitos – Sevilla
    Beşiktaş – CSKA Sofia
    Vittoria – Heerenveen
    Olympique Marseille – Mlada Boleslav
    Atvidaberg – Grasshoppers

    Rapid Bukurest – Nacional
    Trabzonspor – Ossasuna
    Basel – Rabotnički
    West Ham – Palermo
    Feyenoord - Lokomotiva Sofia

    Ružomberok – Club Brugge
    Sion – Bayer Leverkusen
    Partizan – Groningen
    Xanthi – Dinamo Bukurest
    Slavia Prag - Tottenham

    Start – Ajax
    Artmedia – Espanyol
    Wisla Krakow – Iraklis
    Livorno – Pasching
    Dinamo Zagreb - Auxerre

    A couple of interesting clashes, like West Ham - Palermo and Celta - Standard.
    First matches are played on 14 September, the return legs a fortnight later.
     
  3. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    UK
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Damn we got a pretty tough draw.
     
  4. sendô

    sendô New Member

    Jun 20, 2006
    London
    Stupid system for drawing if you ask me. What's wrong with sticking 40 seeded teams in a hat, and drwing them off against 40 unseeded teams?

    Can see West Ham and spurs going out here. Very tough draws for them, while Newcastle get a plum draw despite how shit they are.

    When will UEFA ever manage to organise a decent competition?
     
  5. Forza AZ

    Forza AZ New Member

    Jun 26, 2003
    Alkmaar
    They do it this way to prevent teams from the same country drawing each other (which is not allowed).
    But I agree that they could also do that in a different way:

    Just make 2 pots of 40 teams and when it happens that 2 teams from the same country draw each other, just move the team that is drawn 2nd to the next match (or previous if the last match gives problems).
     
  6. Sagy

    Sagy Member

    Aug 6, 2004
    West Ham and Spurs were unseeded so getting a strong opponent should not be a surprise. Both of them got teams that were in the bottom half of the seeded teams. If the draw was as you proposed there is a greater likelihood that they would have had to face an even stronger team.

    Newcastle (as poor as they are) on the other hand, was a seeded team (#2, actually #1, but behind Sevilla as the title holder). They did get very lucky in drawing the weakest team. But in order to do that they had to get lucky twice, once to be drawn into the same group as Tallinn and a second time in avoiding Standard & Braga (40%) both are in the top 10 unseeded teams and in a 40 by 40 format Newcastle would have had only an 8/38 (~21%) of facing a top 10 unseeded team (they can't play an English team).

    Overall the system is reasonable, some teams got worse draw and some got a better one, but this is the nature of a draw. A 40 by 40 draw would, in all likelihood, have produced just as many tough matches.
     

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