UEFA Cup 2004-2005 [R]

Discussion in 'Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, & the former Soviet Repu' started by gaijin, Oct 21, 2004.

  1. gaijin

    gaijin New Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Malaysia
    Strange, can't find a thread to this......

    Group C

    Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 3-2 Club Brugge
    [Venhlinskyy 32, 61, Rykun 45; Ceh 38, Balaban 42]

    Zaragoza 2-0 FC Utrecht
    [Villa 78, 82]

    Great fight back by Dnipro as they come back from 2-1 down to win.

    Code:
                            P   W   D  L   F-A  +/-  Pts
    Zaragoza                1   1   0  0   2-0   2    3
    [B]Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk   1   1   0  0   3-2   1    3[/B]
    Austria Vienna          0   0   0  0   0-0   0    0
    Club Brugge             1   0   0  1   2-3  -1    0
    FC Utrecht              1   0   0  1   0-2  -2    0
    Next games

    [4th November]

    Utrecht v Dnipro
    Austria v Zaragoza

    ===========================================

    Group D

    Dinamo Tbilisi 0-2 Sochaux
    [Ilan 17, 34]

    Panionios 0-1 Newcastle United
    [Shearer 87 (pen)]

    Code:
                      P   W  D  L  F-A  +/-  Pts    
    Sochaux           1   1  0  0  2-0   2    3
    Newcastle United  1   1  0  0  1-0   1    3
    Sporting Lisbon   0   0  0  0  0-0   0    0
    Panionios         1   0  0  1  0-1  -1    0
    [B]Dinamo Tbilisi    1   0  0  1  0-2  -2    0[/B]
    Next games

    [4th November]

    Newcastle v Dinamo Tbilisi
    Sporting v Panionios

    ============================================

    Group H

    Zenit Saint Petersburg 5-1 AEK Athens
    [Arshavin 44, Kerzhakov 48, 54, 68, Denisov 87; Krassas 4]

    Alemannia Aachen 1-0 Lille
    [Meijer 67]

    Great result for Zenit.....

    Code:
                             P   W   D   L   F-A  +/-  Pts
    [B]Zenit Saint Petersburg   1   1   0   0   5-1   4    3[/B]
    Alemannia Aachen         1   1   0   0   1-0   1    3
    Sevilla                  0   0   0   0   0-0   0    0   
    Lille                    1   0   0   1   0-1  -1    0
    AEK Athens               1   0   0   1   1-5  -4    0
    Next games:

    [4th November]

    Lille v Zenit
    Sevilla v Aachen
     
  2. metros11

    metros11 Member

    Sep 11, 1999
    Highlands of NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Best part about the Zenit win is that AEK Athens are currently first in Greece.
     
  3. Shurik

    Shurik New Member

    Nov 2, 1999
    Baltimore, MD
    And the worst part is that they have to play Sevilla, who will wear this.
     
  4. gaijin

    gaijin New Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Malaysia
    :D - ROFL!!!!

    Looks like an accident at a paint factory....
     
  5. Zenit

    Zenit Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 3, 2000
    Above the Tear Line
    Club:
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good God! That is truly hideous! :eek:
     
  6. gaijin

    gaijin New Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Malaysia
    Group C

    FC Utrecht 1-2 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk
    [Douglas 88; Rotan 11, Kostishin 83]

    Austria Vienna 1-0 Real Zaragoza
    [Gilewicz 71]

    Great win for Dnipro, Rotan scores once more - I'll raise a point with you all laters about this game..... ;)

    Code:
                            P   W   D  L   F-A  +/-  Pts
    [B]Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk   2   2   0  0   5-3   2    6[/B]
    Zaragoza                2   1   0  1   2-1   1    3
    Austria Vienna          1   1   0  0   1-0   1    3
    Club Brugge             1   0   0  1   2-3  -1    0
    FC Utrecht              2   0   0  2   1-4  -3    0
    ------------------------------------------------------------

    Group D

    Newcastle United 2-0 Dinamo Tbilsi
    [Shearer 38, Bellamy 56

    Sporting 4-1 Panionios
    [Custodio 5, Douala 38, Liedson 79, Viana 81; Marcera 35]

    Well, its really more a case of keeping the score respectable for Tbilsi at the moment.

    Code:
                      P   W  D  L  F-A  +/-  Pts    
    Newcastle United  2   2  0  0  3-0   3    6
    Sporting Lisbon   1   1  0  0  4-1   3    3
    Sochaux           1   1  0  0  2-0   2    3
    Panionios         2   0  0  2  1-5  -4    0
    [B]Dinamo Tbilisi    2   0  0  2  0-4  -4    0[/B]
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Group H

    Lille 2-1 Zenit Spb
    [Tafforeau 34, Moussilou 41; Kerzhakov 38]

    Sevilla 2-0 Aachen
    [Aranda 7, Baptista 77 (pen)]

    The cultralist's lose in the current European city of culture! Culturific! :eek:

    Code:
                             P   W   D   L   F-A  +/-  Pts
    [B]Zenit Saint Petersburg   2   1   0   1   6-3   3    3[/B]
    Sevilla                  1   1   0   0   2-0   2    3
    Lille                    2   1   0   1   2-2   0    3
    Alemannia Aachen         2   1   0   1   1-2  -1    3
    AEK Athens               1   0   0   1   1-5  -4    0
    
     
  7. gaijin

    gaijin New Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Malaysia
    Okay.........

    Why did Dnipro wear shirts with Cyrillic fonts on the back. I though UEFA didn't allow this? Is this only for CL.

    Loko had to change their sponsporship logo for the CL. As well as wearing Latin script on the back.

    If this is so. then Maybe Dnipro have broken the rules. Can anyone shed any light on this.
     
  8. Shurik

    Shurik New Member

    Nov 2, 1999
    Baltimore, MD
    I guess they were successfull in arguing that their Biggest National Pride After Makhno and Bandera (i.e. the Latin "i" in the alphabet) got 'em off as the "real Europeans" which they long so badly to become.

    "Чi бути, чi не бути - о дэ заковика!" (c) Hamletenko, the Ataman of Dan'kivschyna, a tragedy by Bohdan Khmyl'nytskyyy.
     
  9. gaijin

    gaijin New Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Malaysia
    Group C

    Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 1-0 Austria Vienna
    [Nazarenko 19]

    Club Brigge 1-0 FC Utrecht
    [Lange 63]
    [Sent off = Ceh (CB) 45, Cornelisse (U) 90]

    Dnipro qualify for the next stage.

    Code:
                            P   W   D  L   F-A  +/-  Pts
    [B]Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk   3   3   0  0   6-3   3    9[/B]
    Zaragoza                2   1   0  1   2-1   1    3
    Club Brugge             2   1   0  1   3-3   0    3
    Austria Vienna          2   1   0  1   1-1   0    3
    FC Utrecht              3   0   0  3   1-5  -4    0
    Next games:

    [December 1]

    Real Zaragoza v Dnipro
    Austria Vienna v Club Brugge

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    Group D

    Dinamo Tbilisi 0-4 Sporting Lisbon
    [Liedson 6, 29, 58, Viana 90]

    Sochaux 0-4 Newcastle United
    [Bowyer 29, Ameobi 46, Bellamy 75, Robert 90]
    [Missed Penalty = Mathieu (S) 64]

    Tbilisi's woes continues, can they score a goal and get some pride?

    Code:
                      P   W  D  L  F-A  +/-  Pts    
    Newcastle United  3   3  0  0  7-0   7    9
    Sporting Lisbon   2   2  0  0  8-1   7    6
    Sochaux           2   1  0  1  2-4  -2    3
    Panionios         2   0  0  2  1-5  -4    0
    [B]Dinamo Tbilisi    3   0  0  3  0-8  -8    0[/B]
    Next games:

    [December 1]

    Sporting v Sochaux
    Paninios v Dinamo Tbilsi

    -----------------------------------------------------------------

    Group H

    Zenit Saint Petesrburg 1-1 Sevilla
    [Arshavin 34; Baptista 73]

    AEK Athens 1-2 Lille
    [Amponsah 72; Vitakic 26, Debuchy 64]

    Zenit are held to a draw and are looking over their shoulders for qualification.

    Code:
                             P   W   D   L   F-A  +/-  Pts
    Lille                    3   2   0   1   4-3   1    6
    [B]Zenit Saint Petersburg   3   1   1   1   7-4   3    4[/B]
    Sevilla                  2   1   1   0   3-1   2    4
    Alemannia Aachen         2   1   0   1   1-2  -1    3
    AEK Athens               2   0   0   2   2-7  -5    0
    Next games:

    [December 1]

    Sevilla v AEK Athens
    Aachen v Zenit SpB
     
  10. gaijin

    gaijin New Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Malaysia
    Group C

    Real Zaragoza 2-1 Dnipro Dnipropetrovesk
    [Savio 8, Generelo 72; Yezersky 2]
    [Sent off = Matiukhin (D) 87]

    Austria Vienna 1-1 Club Brugge
    [Gilewicz 50; Lange 90]
    [Sent off = Papac (A), Victor de Simoes de Oliviera (CB) 90]

    Well Dnirpo lose, but are through regardless.

    Code:
                            P   W   D   L   F-A  +/-  Pts
    [B]Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk   4   3   0   1   7-5   2    9[/B]
    Zaragoza                3   2   0   1   4-2   2    6
    Club Brugge             3   1   1   1   4-4   0    4
    Austria Vienna          3   1   1   1   2-2   0    4
    FC Utrecht              3   0   0   3   1-5  -4    0
    Next games:

    [December 16]

    FC Utrecht v Austria
    Club Brugge v Zaragoza

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Group D

    Paninios 5-2 Dinamo Tbilsi
    [Mantzios 58, 67, 77, Marcera 90, M. Breska 90; Kakaladze 38, Akhalaia 60]

    Sporting Lisbon 0-1 Sochaux
    [Lonfat 2]

    Well Tbilisi break their duck, but give the lead away twice, and blow it to concede some quick fire goals in half an hour.

    Code:
                      P   W  D  L  F-A  +/-  Pts    
    Newcastle United  3   3  0  0  7-0   7    9
    Sporting Lisbon   3   2  0  1  8-2   6    6
    Sochaux           3   2  0  1  3-4  -1    6
    Panionios         3   1  0  2  6-7  -1    3
    [B]Dinamo Tbilisi    4   0  0  4  2-13 -11   0[/B]
    Next games:

    [December 16]

    Newcastle v Sporting
    Sochaux v Paninios

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
     
  11. gaijin

    gaijin New Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Malaysia
    Group H

    Alemannia Aachen 2-2 Zenit Sankt Peterburg
    [Meijer 25, Blank 89 (pen); Radimov 38 (pen), Gorshkov 76]
    [Sent off = Pinto (AA) 90]

    Sevilla 3-2 AEK Athens
    [Julio Baptista 19, 88 (pen) Antonito 30; Lymberopoulos 10, Katsouranis 47]


    A thrilling game in Germany, but not the result the cultralist brigade wanted. Leaves them hanging in there.

    Code:
                             P   W   D   L   F-A  +/-  Pts
    Sevilla                  3   2   1   0   6-3   3    7
    Lille                    3   2   0   1   4-3   1    6
    [B]Zenit Saint Petersburg   4   1   2   1   9-6   3    5[/B]
    Alemannia Aachen         3   1   1   1   3-4  -1    4
    AEK Athens               3   0   0   3   4-10 -6    0
    Next Games:

    [December 15]

    Lille v Sevilla
    AEK v Aachen
     
  12. gaijin

    gaijin New Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Malaysia
    How Zenit can qualify

    Thanks to the help of modern science, an exmplery degree in nuclear physics and the research and aide of several noble-winning mathematicians, I can finally work this out.

    * Zenit don't play, so it is out of their hands now, sorry guys just gotta watch the telly and hope I guess.

    * They can only finish 3rd, hence they will get a first placed team in another group (read Middlesbrough - :D)

    * In simplified terms, they need to hope that Aachen fail to win, they are at already knocked out AEK. If Aachen get a draw, then Zenit will go through on a better Goal difference, thanks to their thrashing of AEK earlier on in the comp.

    * Should Aachen win, then it is goodbye to europe for Zenit for this season.

    * In the other game, Lille and Sevilla will playoff for top spot.

    ~ Hang on a minute, it wasn't that hard, was it? :eek:
     
  13. gaijin

    gaijin New Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Malaysia
    Well no games for Zenit in the competition, but their fate was decided tonight with other games in the group.

    Sadly not good news for the Culturalists.....:(

    Group H

    AEK Athens 0-2 Alemannia Aachen
    [Meijer 56, Gomez 84]

    Lille 1-0 Sevilla
    [Moussilou 77]
    [Sent off = Rafael Schmitz (L) 90]

    Code:
                             P   W   D   L   F-A  +/-  Pts
    Lille                    4   3   0   1   5-3   2    9
    Sevilla                  4   2   1   1   6-4   2    7
    Alemannia Aachen         4   2   1   1   5-4   1    7
    [B]Zenit Saint Petersburg   4   1   2   1   9-6   3    5[/B]
    AEK Athens               4   0   0   4   4-12 -8    0
    The top three progress, meaning it is bye-bye, for a while now, for poor old Zenit......
     
  14. gaijin

    gaijin New Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Malaysia
    Sadly no Zenit in the next round. But Dnipro have qualified for the second round and will be joined by fellow Ukrainian neighbours Shakhtar Donetsk and Dynamo Kyiv. CSKA Moskva will also compete in the next round after finishing third in their Champions League group.
     
  15. Shurik

    Shurik New Member

    Nov 2, 1999
    Baltimore, MD
    And, by finishing out of the medals, their only hope for Europe now is to win the Cup or to have CSKA or the Wings win it.
     
  16. gaijin

    gaijin New Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Malaysia
    Or get to the final and lose spectacularly to either CSKA or Krylya....
     
  17. Shurik

    Shurik New Member

    Nov 2, 1999
    Baltimore, MD
    It doesn't matter. If the Horses or the Wings take the Cup, Zenit are in Europe regardless of who was in the final.
    Now, if Loko won the Cup, the losing finalists would get the berth. But Loko can't, so they won't.

    The Culturals were perfect poster boys of why the Russian season should remain as it is and not move to the European "summer-fall" system. Russian clubs simply cannot play in late November or December. We can't. Never could!
    Of course, now they will very likely institute the "summer-fall", since this is Russia and all the laws of Bizzaro World apply.
     
  18. gaijin

    gaijin New Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Malaysia
    Doesn't Russia have 18 months or so to play its cup? (the longest in any European nation.)

    Playing in December? Maybe if they reverted to a special Snow-futsal type game.....Now that I would watch!
     
  19. Shurik

    Shurik New Member

    Nov 2, 1999
    Baltimore, MD
    The Cup actually starts before last year's Cup is over, believe it or not.
    Second Division teams begin play sometime in April in the 1/1024th-final. RPL sides don't get into the action until there are 16 clubs left, so the Round of 32 can be held, sometime in August. At this point they play home-and-home series until the Final is held in Moscow in May of nex year.
    In my opinion, this works just fine.
     
  20. gaijin

    gaijin New Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Malaysia
    Crazy Russian cup, thats what you get for being such a big country.....anyways,

    No games but we have to make it official:

    Club Brugges 1-1 Real Zaragoza
    [Ceh 68; Savio 40]
    [Sent off = Spliar (CB) 90]

    FC Utrecht 1-2 Austria Vienna
    [Douglas 55; Sionko 14, Rushfeldt 78]

    Zaragoza can't overtake Dnipro and thus the Ukrainians get first place...

    Code:
                            P   W   D   L   F-A  +/-  Pts
    [B]Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk   4   3   0   1   7-5   2    9[/B]
    Zaragoza                4   2   1   1   5-3   2    7
    Austria Vienna          4   2   1   1   4-3   1    7
    Club Brugge             4   1   2   1   5-5   0    5
    FC Utrecht              4   0   0   4   2-7  -5    0
    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    Well no point here, but lets see how the rest compared to Tbilsi....

    Newcastle 1-1 Sporting
    [Bellamy 3; Custudio 40]

    Sochaux 1-0 Paninios
    [Isabey 86]

    Code:
                      P   W  D  L  F-A  +/-  Pts    
    Newcastle United  4   3  1  0  8-1   7   10
    Sochaux           4   3  0  1  4-4   0    9
    Sporting Lisbon   4   2  1  1  9-3   6    7
    Panionios         4   1  0  3  6-8  -2    3
    [B]Dinamo Tbilisi    4   0  0  4  2-13 -11   0[/B]
    We were already doooooooomed Captain Mainwaring......

    Oh well, always next year lads....
     
  21. gaijin

    gaijin New Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Malaysia
    Well the draw for the 2nd round of the UEFA cup was made today. Here's how the teams fared.

    Dynamo Kyiv [UKR] v Villarreal [ESP]

    * Winner will play the winner of Valencia [ESP] v Steaua Bucharest [ROM]

    Shakhtar Donetsk [UKR] v Schalke 04 [GER]

    * Winner will play the winner of Alemannia Aachen [GER] v AZ Alkmaar [NED]

    Partizan Belgrade [SGC] v Dnipro Dnipropetrovesk [UKR]

    CSKA Moskva [RUS] v Benfica [PRT]

    * Winner will play the winner of the above game. So a potential 3rd round clash between Dnipro and CSKA!
     
  22. Grizzly

    Grizzly Member

    Dec 16, 2004
    Montreal
    Pretty tough draw for everyone except Dnipro. Benefica will be a tough match for CSKA particularly out of season but if they do make it through they would be strong favourites against either Dnipro or Partizan.
     
  23. gaijin

    gaijin New Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Malaysia
    bump

    Just to let everyone know that the CSKA match against Benfica on the 17th of February will be played at Krasnodar mainly due to the fact that the club can't guarentee that the pitch will be suitable for playing on.

    The weather at the minute in Eastern Europe is horrendous (much like the North of the USA I think.)
     
  24. DynamoKiev_USA

    DynamoKiev_USA New Member

    Jul 6, 2003
    Silver Spring, MD
    UEFA Cup thread, you lazy buggers

    1/32 today
    Partizan - Dnipro 2:2

    looked like an even game in Belgrade, and Dnipro comes away with a good
    result. Venglynsky didn't score :eek:

    Shakhtar - Shalke 04 1:1

    A fast-paced affair, Shalke scored first on the 7th minute. Aghahowa wasted clear chances, and then Shakhtar's new and old Brazilians took over and equalized a few minutes from time. A decent result for this time of the year, but Shakhtar will stay true to form and lay a giant egg in Germany, I predict.


    Tomorrow -- Dynamo plays Villareal. VPERED DYNAMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    I'm sure there're some Russian teams playing as well.
     
  25. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    Re: UEFA Cup thread, you lazy buggers

    Yep. CSKA vs. Benfica

    Question to DynamoKiev: I read somewhere that Dinamo signed some 19 yr old from Volin', who is supose to be the next Nedved and a Brazilian CB, who was voted the best CB in Brazil. Do you know their names? Whatever hapenned to Ghioane?
     

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