Graham Poll!! I remember reading his articles in the Daily Mail. I actually thought of all the ex-referees turned analysts/pundits/writers that he was the best and maybe still is the gold standard.
What a fascinating discussion! Brings back a lot of memories At least Clattenburg and Marciniak have gotten that, right? This is my biggest shock of all. I had no idea Bennett ever did a UCL match, let alone a QF!!!
Not only that Rocchi never got the Final, but he never even had a SF. Rizzoli had a Final and 2 SFs. Orsato had a Final and 3 SFs. It wasn't like Rocchi was constantly blocked out by Italian teams either. Comparing him to Fandel is interesting. Of course, he did get a EL Final instead.
I almost put "two?" in a parenthetical because I seemed to remember there was one other than Clattenburg but I couldn't be sure and didn't take the time to look. Yes, two! But still, it's not the ideal or standard operating procedure. Two I know. I wonder if they were keeping Poll on ice in case they could use him as the Final referee but just, well, had no one else and needed an English referee? Hard to make sense of much of that season looking back.
Siebert refereed the King’s Cup Final in Saudi Arabia today. Seems like a relatively quick turnaround after a Champions League semifinal 3 days ago.
I know its common but what is the deal with foreign leagues bringing in outside referees? Don't they want to develop their referees.
I was wondering about this the other day too, about Saudi Arabia specifically. Seems like half their games - and certainly every big game - is officiated by a foreign crew. Where are the Saudi refs, including those in World Cup contention, getting most of their experience?
The match fees in Saudi Arabia are (about 6000 euro and) about the same as UEFA matches; for a final it may be higher. The match was between a big team and a lower-middle team, so it was not the hardest task for Siebert, but the underdog side scored first and were winning until 42min so the first half was quite challenging for him. Overall, he refereed the game fine. They don't trust the local referees for big games (remember this is through experience, not (just) prejudice) and clearly have the money for the best referees in the world, so why not pay for them? Things are much different since the Clattenburg days and are much better run, by the former right-hand man to Busacca at FIFA, Manuel Navarro. The marquee cup game this season Al-Nassr vs. Al-Ittihad was refereed by the Saudi WC official, Khaled Al-Turias, and he did well (it might not seem like that much but it was a big deal there that a local got this game). The appointment to watch out for is Al-Nassr vs. Al-Hilal on Tuesday.
How does this compare to domestic matches (Premier League, La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A, etc.)? And what about assistants? Looking at the list of foreign referees in the King's Cup is certainly interesting: Final: Siebert (GER) SF: Hilfer (ARG), Ivanov (RUS) QF: Godinho (POR), Rumsas (LTU), Makkelie (NED) R16: Petrescu (ROU), Pinheiro (POR), Vincic (SVN) R32: Badstubner (GER), Benitez (PAR), Calderon (CRC) So UEFA, CONMEBOL, CONCACAF, but no AFC. Also, I wonder why they bother bringing in foreign referees for R32 matches. Those three matches are all between first-division and second-division clubs, so they don't seem like "big" matches.
2026 UEFA Champions League finalArsenal v PSGReferee: Daniel Siebert (Germany)Assistants: Jan Seidel and Rafael Foltyn (both from Germany)4th Official: Sandro Schärer (Switzerland)VAR: Bastian Dankert (Germany)— Dale Johnson (@DaleJohnsonBBC) May 11, 2026 It's Siebert.
Letexier on Europa League Final, which was quite foreseeable. Mariani on Conference League Final, which now likely shows why he was not given the CL semi. So, not as bad as giving him the CL final, but still protecting an Italian so he could get a cup final. I'd say of the truly possible names for the CL Final, Siebert does seem to deserve it based on performance. So some credit due to UEFA there, particularly appointing someone not on the WC list. Of course, one could also argue that better planning would have been nicer as there's no way UEFA wanted to use two semifinal referees on the same final.
It feels like they just went with who was best performing semi-final referee since Oliver and Letexier were not eligible. Pretty obvious that Siebert wasn't Plan A and probably not even plan C. Wonder who was truly plan A? Oliver or Letexier? My guess would be Letexier. So Pencil in Letexier for next year's Final unless PSG get there again?
I think it's actually very obvious it was Oliver. Performance and assignments seemed to indicate that the whole way. Plus he has seniority on Letexier and just not sure UEFA would want to give Letexier a EURO and CL Final before his first World Cup if they didn't have to do so. I actually don't think UEFA wanted Letexier to be Plan B this year but it sort of worked out that way. I think recent history shows it just doesn't work that way. I mean, Siebert's appointment here illustrates that. Even if he was Plan D or E, he wasn't even in the conversation for a CL Final one year ago. A lot can change. Makkelie has been nailed-on for next year's CL final a couple different times, for example.
It is worth noting that Siebert has seen Arsenal in the quarterfinal AND in the semifinal this year. No issues in either of those from the English club's perspective. He saw PSG in the group stage once this year.
Mariani is 44. I don't think I knew that. We have talked off-and-on since (or maybe even before) the 2022 World Cup about how Italy, Germany and Spain didn't have a clear #1 on the horizon. It's very interesting to see how things have played out now that we arrive at WC26. Italy landed on Mariani after trying/failing with both Guida and Massa. Mariani sort of forced into a European cup final here to give him some additional status. But what's next? I don't think you can expect a big summer from him. At 44, maybe a few years near the top of CL and maybe Euro 2028? Both Guida and Massa are also 44 so figuring out what is next and getting him there immediately seems an imperative. For Spain... you end up with Hernandez at the WC by the skin of his teeth and, I'd say, a token fourth official role in a European cup final. Spain is still adrift. Hernandez is also 43. Gil Manzano is still younger (barely) but after doing Euro 24 he gets passed over so seems to be on the outs. Sanchez is 42 and, truthfully, doesn't seem like he has "it." So again, what's next? Does Hernandez ride to Euro 28 or is it someone else's turn? My take is De Burgos has gotten some good assignments but he's also in his 40s. Busquets, at 32, seems the first youthful candidate to get an established name in UEFA but not sure how quickly he'll be pushed. And Germany ends up never really settling the battle between Zwayer and Siebert, with the non-WC referee getting a CL Final (so, at least, they've both performed at times in a way Italian and Spanish referees haven't). But again, they are reaching the road and I don't imagine either is likely for Euro 2028. So what's next for Germany? The other bigger name in UEFA, Stieler, is 44 and never really caught on. Will Osmers or Jablonski be pushed next? @Mikael_Referee , any wise analysis in these three instances? Unless Spain pushes Busquets or there are other referees ~35y/o who are ready to go, it could be the better half of a decade where we really don't end up with top names from these three big countries as default options for big European encounters.
Not surprisingly, Siebert is the first referee to do a QF, SF, and Final for the same team in the same season. But he isn't the first to do a QF, SF, and Final in the same season - Marciniak had that honor in 2022/23. Both referees also did a R16 match, and Siebert did a Knockout phase play-offs match, for good measure.
Siebert doing a match in all rounds of the CL KO stage means--for now, at least(!)--we are well and truly done with the era that saw Mazic get a relatively expected appointment to the 2018 Final without doing a single KO match that year. In those long ago days, you could see a top experiened referee essentially get set aside for the Final in January, so long as they didn't really screw up in the EL or a national team match. No longer, it would appear. Particularly as a perceived alternative, Zwayer, would have fit that bill this year. Indeed, the appointment of Siebert makes clear that Zwayer was never even in consideration at all. It's interesting now. If you look at the QFs, you see the sketches of a plan. That's the last stage Oliver and Letexier were at. It's also where Siebert and Mariani got tested on relatively big matches. I can make an argument that Plans A-D were put through the paces at the QF stage and that, had Turpin/Marciniak/Vincic/Kovacs been more available for the semis, Siebert (and Mariani, for that matter) would have never been appointed to the semis at all.
Im guessing anyone involved in the World Cup is probably playing it safe in terms of risking injury or reputation damage. Also I'm thinking the top UEFA guys are expected to be 100% ready and focused for the end of their league season.
Donatas Rumsas from Lithuania (promoted to UEFA Elite category only a few months ago) was quite surprisingly chosen as the referee, but he handled the game today very well. (edit: sorry @balu, I see your comment now! After the result of the match tonight, more big games coming up in Saudi Arabia, not least the Al-Nassr vs. Damac match on the last day of the season, which is very likely to resemble ManCity-QPR from 2012 in scenario)
Have been told explicitly by FIFA that they are not to take part in these matches (hence, Rumsas' appointment). Will be interesting to see who ends up in charge of the remaining key fixtures.
I leave it to others to decide whether it is wise or not! Germany: If CL final goes badly, it is very likely that Siebert will not be at Euro 2028! Rosetti really likes Jablonski (he sees him as Letexier 2.0 and indeed, the German is a very good ref) and until Bilbao-Sporting in January, Siebert was German no2 to Zwayer. I watched one of the young up-and-comers in Germany, Jollenbeck, referee the big Egyptian derby a couple of weeks ago and he was pretty good. Osmers is steady but not quite good enough for Elite, in my view. Rosetti really likes Germany's refereeing and overall I think that country is in quite a good place for the future. The same cannot be said in the other two countries... Spain: I think they are going to try and push Alberola from the beginning of next season. I have a lot of doubts about him (he isn't a good manager, he loses his temper way too easily), but he does have a kind of 'X-Factor' that I think you can't deny exists. Time will tell if he can make the improvements technically. Busquets Ferrer is very overrated, in my opinion - they must see him as the Spanish Letexier but to me just seems an average, nondescript referee, There are also good things written about the non-FIFA official Sesma Espinosa, but I haven't seen (m)any of his matches myself. Italy: From my pov, the situation is absolutely dire here. The two Italian referees in the middle of the three UEFA categories, Sozza and Colombo, simply aren't very good. They convinced themselves that Sozza was the next big thing, when he clearly wasn't, and have now convinced themselves even more about Colombo - he just isn't good enough in my opinion and some of the matches I watched by Andrea Colombo bordered on the embarrasingly bad (like the Serie B promotion playoff of last season). The two referees added to the FIFA list in 2025, Marchetti and Marcenaro, do not look like Elite material to me (there is more merit to the latter). Good things are written about the 2026 addition, Luca Zufferli, but I haven't seen (m)any of his matches myself. The situation is also quite bad in England beyond Kavanagh, as you can see by watching the PL.
I was going to ask the same thing. He seems like he's next to me. Actually, I was going to chide @Mikael_Referee for the "beyond" Kavanagh framing. I still find Kavanagh to be generally useless and utterly devoid of any personality. I can't believe people view him as an adequate international replacement for Oliver and Taylor. At least Oliver has a little more shelf-life and the baton doesn't have to pass to Kavanagh for 2028 (and, given 2028's location, I can't imagine Oliver stands down before then). I actually wonder if the advent of VAR and the controversial attention it brings to the big leagues, in particular has just fundamentally changed the dynamic around the ideas of what an elite referee looks and acts like within UEFA. Right now, of the so-called Big 4, the only two names really operating on the highest levels are Taylor and Oliver (with Siebert obviously very recently joining them, at least on types of assignments; though given he crashed out of the last WC and didn't make this one, I don't think you can call it quite the same). Those guys were at the top before VAR came around or hitting that very top just as it arrived. So were Mateu, Brych and Orsato. Who has entered a Big 4 league since VAR and really stood out at the international level? No one. Truly no one. Letexier is the only name that comes to mind and Ligue 1 just isn't the same.