UEFA Competitions 2023-2024 Referee Discussions [Rs]

I watched this live and was laughing at Morata. It would have been an OG and he just had to go and touch it right at the goal line. The moment they threw up the first replay you could see he was just offside and as you said the only question was "deliberate play or deflection?" Its a good goal if Morata lets it go.

 

Not that I could tell.

Correct! But given that an OFR was called for on such a clear foul, (and taking into account the later OFR) I can't imagine the VAR was thinking that the penalty should be rescinded.
And furthermore, having now given two penalties against the home team, near the end of the match, which if scored, almost effectively eliminates them from the competition, (whereas a win might have seen them through) why add to your own dire straits by issuing a red card to a player as well?

All well and good in theory! But some circumstances are exceptional, and I think this was one of them.
Many of us have been in tough matches hoping that there won't be a controversial event in the last few minutes, knowing what it could mean in various ways.
Maybe in the future when we (they?) have AI refereeing, it will be gone, all the thinking is done for them!

PH

 

Very, very surprised at the lack of VAR intervention in ENG-ITA today. First for a non-intervention of an incident that would have led to an England penalty, then for non-intervention on a studs-to-shin tackle in midfield by an English player who was on a caution (64th minute).

I guess they cancel each other out, but I was shocked not to see a review in both cases.

 

The broadcast here (Canada) stated "Penalty being reviewed" (for both incidents). And I didn't see any cards before or after the OFR.

 

Philips should have had got his 2nd YC at least. We have all seen a straight red given for that tackle, so he was very fortunate.
There may have been a quick VAR review for the penalty shout, but soon given as complete.

PH

 

Apologies if I missed one prior, but is this Hategan's first UEFA game back?

FC Lugano – Club Brugge
Referee: Ovidiu Hațegan ROU
Assistant Referee 1: Mihai Marica ROU
Assistant Referee 2: Sebastian Gheorghe ROU
Fourth Official: Constantin Colțescu ROU
VAR: Marco Guida ITA
AVAR: Francesco Meraviglia ITA
Referee Observer: Mark Whitby WAL

 

It is!

 

DORT:HOFF
DFB Pokal

I can't believe this was a 2CT to the Hoffenheim player
https://streamable.com/pvuq4j

 

Overreaction much?

Dortmund player nutmegs the Hoffenheim player and is gonna be heading into the penalty area. Once you call a foul, you kind of have to give a card.

Could you make an argument that the preferred decision is actually a foul coming out? Possibly.

The 2CT is certainly not enough to make a post about saying "I can't believe this was given?"

 

In the "Eredivisie" the match between AZ Alkmaar and NEC was interrupted by the collaps of a NEC player and the referee decided to discontinue the match.
Now a tricky thing is coming up, when the match will resume for the final minutes.

At the moment the ref interrupted the match to have the player get medical care a penalty moment took place.
So how to resume the match? With a penalty? The VAR looking at the yes/no penalty, or with a referee ball?

 

https://streamin.me/v/7b5ebeb7

Seems like it’s the toebox getting above the foot and downward motion almost all the contact is on the top of the foot. Slow mo freeze frame is unfairly bringing this to a red imo

 

Yesterday and today were the first time i noticed “be a referee” on the backs of the refs- is this some sort of FIFA or UEFA initiative?

 

Both the SFP incidents yesterday were correct IMO.
However the one against Rashford a few minutes ago is very harsh.

(I am not now, nor ever have I been a Man U fan!)


PH

 

I honestly do not know what handling is anymore. Two of them in CPH-MU and both make no sense.

 

The opponent's foot was not there initially. Rashford is looking down at the ball, and was putting his foot into what he saw was empty space on the ground. Then the opponent's foot went under his. Not really his fault. He is allowed to play football.
Rashford was not flying through the air with his foot raised, and we have seen in other tackles (E.g. the Havertz one last week), he was not out of control in a reckless tackle.
it doesn't check the criteria of the old SIAPOA

PH

 

He literally lungs his left leg towards the leg. He can go anywhere else. He deviates the trajectory of his leg to that area. I understand where you're coming from but I agree with the red.

Now, for example, if he was running with the ball and some defender comes slide tackling and he steps on his ankle, that's a different story.

 

The opponent's foot was not there when Rashford stretches his leg out.

Not really, He's decided where to put his foot to keep his balance and that spece was vacant.

Four ex-top pro players on the review show totally disagree with you and the red card!
I don't expect that you have either played or refereed at this level. Listen to those who have.

There can be a million different stories. All irrelevant.

PH

 

He was not just looking at the ball/ground. He looks over and sees the opponent coming before looking down at the ball



The onus is on him to shield fairly especially when he knows an opponent is coming. He lunges out and forcefully jams his left leg down a full foot away from the ball directly into the path of where the opponent would be standing.

 

I'm not the expert in these matters, but isnot it the opponent's choice to move his foot/leg towards him?
It's not Rashford moving his foot towards the opponent.
Suppose I want to kick the ball and the opponent moves in and lounges his foot between the ball and my foot on it's way to kick it and I hit him hard. Red card?