UEFA Champions League and UEFA Cup Draw [R]

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  1. The Old Lady Hertha

    The Old Lady Hertha New Member

    Dec 15, 2004
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
    In the pot for the Champions League:

    FC Bayern Munchen (2nd seed I think right? That means they have to play one of the Euro Superpowers)
    Werder Bremen (ditto)
    Hamburger SV (3rd seed)

    In the pot for the UEFA Cup:

    Bayer Leverkusen
    Schalke 04
    Eintracht Frankfurt

    Still to be determined:

    Hertha BSC Berlin

    Draw for CL is tomorrow, Draw for UEFA Cup is on Friday before the UEFA Super Cup between Barcelona and Sevilla.
     
  2. LoewenBoy

    LoewenBoy Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    Giesing, Muenchen
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Sint Maarten
    Given how they played against Barca they better hope they get one of the "lesser" superpowers or it is going to be a short CL season.:D
     
  3. The Old Lady Hertha

    The Old Lady Hertha New Member

    Dec 15, 2004
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
    Its a friendly, just like how you beat them ^^

    Bayern and Werder would do well to get either Man Utd, Arsenal...
     
  4. "Eisenfuß" Eilts

    Jul 1, 2005
    In the sun ;)
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Bayern is in pot 2, so they will have the "easiest" draw of the German teams in CL.
    Bremen is in pot 3 and Hamburg in pot 4, so two class teams against them.

    At UEFA-cup there Schalke, Leverkusen and Hertha (if they qualify)
    are all seeded, while Frankfurt is most propably unseeded
    (13 teams higher ranked than them would have to struggle before Frankfurt would be seeded).
     
  5. "Eisenfuß" Eilts

    Jul 1, 2005
    In the sun ;)
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    If you look how Liverpool played the last weeks (2-1, 1-1 against Haifa in qualification, 1-1 against Sheffield and friendlies: 0-5 against Mainz, 2-3 against Lautern, they would be my prefered English team,
    but they will propably improve in the course of time.
     
  6. LoewenBoy

    LoewenBoy Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    Giesing, Muenchen
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Sint Maarten
    Agreed...but it clearly showed the difference in class-levels between the two teams..IMHO. Friendly or not, I think Bayern will not go far in the CL. I just cannot seem them beating the likes of Barca, Real, Chelsea, Arsenal, etc.
     
  7. "Eisenfuß" Eilts

    Jul 1, 2005
    In the sun ;)
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Ok, these are the pots for this year CL:
    Pot 1
    FC Barcelona (TH)
    AC Milan
    Real Madrid
    Internazionale
    Liverpool
    Arsenal
    Manchester United
    Valencia

    Pot 2
    Olympique Lyon
    FC Porto
    PSV Eindhoven
    Bayern München
    Chelsea
    AS Roma
    Celtic
    Lille OSC

    Pot 3
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Benfica
    Girondins Bordeaux
    Steaua Bucuresti
    Werder Bremen
    Olympiakos Piraeus
    CSKA Moscow
    AEK Athens

    Pot 4
    Anderlecht
    Dinamo Kiev
    Levski Sofia
    Shakhtar Donetsk
    Galatasaray
    Hamburger SV
    Spartak Moscow
    FC København
     
  8. mofo4life

    mofo4life Member

    May 25, 2004
    near munich
    toughest Bayern group: Barca,Bayern,CSKA Moscow,Shakhtar Donetsk
    weakest Bayern group: Valencia,Bayern,AEK Athens,FC København
     
  9. Doc_Aeppler

    Doc_Aeppler Member

    May 27, 2003
    Frankfurt
    Im exited, I cant wait to finally know who we are playing!

    I think Bayern and Werder could go to the semifinals with a little luck, while HSV... well you never know, but as long as they dont finish 4th they should be satisfied...

    Schalke and Leverkusen should be able to make some damage in the UEFA Cup... but as usualy they prolly wont...
    Hertha will provide us with some quality 0-0s...
    And we... well, we're hoping for a decend draw so that we can reach the groupstage... that would be amazing... on the other hand, if we go out in first round but i get to travel to Amsterdam, Paris or Glasgow, I would be allright with that too... :D
     
  10. "Eisenfuß" Eilts

    Jul 1, 2005
    In the sun ;)
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    It´s a 30-70 to get a not so strong seeded team for Eintracht,
    we´ll see on Friday.
    Hopefully you don´t have bad luck like Mainz last season and
    play against the team, that wins the cup
    (last year: Mainz 0-0 0-2 Sevilla in 1st round).

    The other team should get makeable opponents, but there are also some
    strong non-seeded teams:
    Tottenham (with Berbatov), West Ham Utd., Dynamo Zagreb, Belgrad, ...
     
  11. LoewenBoy

    LoewenBoy Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    Giesing, Muenchen
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Sint Maarten
    I agree on Werder. I think they are strong and if they stay healthy and focused, they are capable of reaching the semis.

    No offense intended, but regarding Bayern, I do not see them as that strong. I do not think they can compete even against Werder. They are not as deep as in the past, nor do they have the skills to combat the likes of a Real, Barca, Chelsa, Arsenal, Werder, AC Milan, Inter, etc.
     
  12. ForeverRed

    ForeverRed Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I have a hunch that one of the German teams will end up in the Group of Death......
     
  13. The Old Lady Hertha

    The Old Lady Hertha New Member

    Dec 15, 2004
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
    Wir fahren nacht Glasgow :mad:
     
  14. ForeverRed

    ForeverRed Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    BTW, what the ******** are Madrid, Valencia and Inter doing in pot 1?
     
  15. The Old Lady Hertha

    The Old Lady Hertha New Member

    Dec 15, 2004
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
    Their UEFA Coefficent.

    Code:
    1 	AC Milan 	Ita 	23.1485 	31.2560 	16.9285 	31.6200 	26.0675 	129.020
    2 	FC Barcelona 	Esp 	27.9025 	31.1150 	16.7230 	17.1040 	34.1620 	127.006
    3 	Real Madrid 	Esp 	35.9025 	27.1150 	21.7230 	18.1040 	17.1620 	120.006
    4 	Internazionale 	Ita 	21.1485 	28.2560 	15.9285 	22.6200 	24.0675 	112.020
    5 	Juventus 	Ita 	18.1485 	29.2560 	12.9285 	23.6200 	23.0675 	107.020
    6 	Liverpool 	Eng 	22.8185 	20.5200 	14.7125 	30.1385 	17.7610 	105.950
    7 	Arsenal 	Eng 	15.8185 	17.5200 	17.7125 	19.1385 	31.7610 	101.950
    8 	Manchester Utd 	Eng 	28.8185 	26.5200 	15.7125 	17.1385 	12.7610 	100.950
    9 	Valencia 	Esp 	18.9025 	27.1150 	29.7230 	14.1040 	5.1620 	           95.006
    10 	Olympique Lyon 	Fra 	12.3510 	10.6125 	18.4550 	23.7710 	24.5680 	89.757
     
  16. Vfbstuttgartfan

    Aug 3, 2004
    Stuttgart
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    Madrid and Inter make the playoffs of the CL every single season they are in it, so i don't see what's shocking about them being in pot 1...
     
  17. AGF Aarhus

    AGF Aarhus Member

    Union Berlin
    Apr 7, 2001
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    With Bremen and Hamburg arguably the best teams in pots 3 and 4, this is almost by definition a certainty.
     
  18. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Group A
    Barcelona
    Chelsea
    Bremen
    Levski

    Group B
    Inter
    Bayern
    Sporting
    Spartak

    Group C
    Liverpool
    PSV
    Bordeaux
    Galatasaray

    Group D
    Valencia
    Roma
    Olympiacos
    Shakhtar

    Group E
    Real Madrid
    Lyon
    Steaua
    Dynamo

    Group F
    Manchester United
    Celtic
    Benfica
    Kobenhaven

    Group G
    Arsenal
    Porto
    CSKA
    Hamburg

    Group H
    AC Milan
    Lille
    AEK Athens
    Anderlecht
     
  19. Jaison

    Jaison New Member

    May 6, 2005
    Tristan da Cunha
    Werder truly got shafted.
     
  20. Bayerntone

    Bayerntone Member

    Nov 7, 2005
    HK
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Bremen and Hamburg are in groups of death! Hard luck!:(
     
  21. Miran Klosnic

    Miran Klosnic New Member

    Feb 1, 2006
    Wow, what a hard draw for Werder! That is the ultimate group of death! But now, they have nothing to lose. Barca and Chelski will learn, that they don't reach the k.o-stages without hard fighting!
     
  22. zacRWE

    zacRWE New Member

    Nov 3, 2005
    Essen, Germany
    no, Levski got shafted!!!! :)
     
  23. Vfbstuttgartfan

    Aug 3, 2004
    Stuttgart
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    It's not impossible for either of the threee teams to make it to the next round(even Bremen stand a chance in my opinion. Atleast against Chelsea, who haven't looked too convincing so far in the Premiership). However there's also a chance, about 40% in my opinion, that all three will be out after the group stages. However, i don't expect any of them to go out in last spot, so at the very worst, Germany should have a bunch of Uefa Cup contenders ;)
     
  24. teccomin

    teccomin Member

    Aug 5, 2006
    What a draw.. champions of England, Spain and arguably the best German team in one group !!
     
  25. ForeverRed

    ForeverRed Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Group of Death.......
     

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