PBP: UCL: Bayern Munich v Manchester United - Wed 20 Sep 2023 [R]

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Sofabloke, Sep 19, 2023.

  1. Chaz Striker

    Chaz Striker Member+

    Jul 26, 2005
    Denver
    Our away record includes losing to all opposition, not just good opposition...

    To be fair, I think we'd actually be in this game if not for the initial gaf.
     
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  2. Pulp

    Pulp Member+

    Feb 13, 2013
    TO / CA
    We just can't do ANYTHING right.
     
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  3. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Fair point.

    Point I was trying to make is that you have to be more defensive away against top oppo and even managers like SAF were.

    “as if he should play two DMs against better oppo.”

    However hard to do that if the manager only has one DM in his toolbox.

    We need Amrabat & Mainoo available so bad …
     
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  4. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    it's quite sad folks have to keep mentioning a kid with no real first team experience as vital to our season.

    but that's where we are. overburdening another young talent
     
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  5. Pulp

    Pulp Member+

    Feb 13, 2013
    TO / CA
    We are a ********ing disaster. My god.
     
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  6. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Lindelof is so bad. Once every 10 games he’ll look great and give us hope, only to remind us for the next month that he’s soft as baby shit and is constantly lost on the field.
     
  7. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    i am done with him but fair is fair. Martial has looked lively today (for once. full moon?)
     
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  8. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nice goal from Cas, good team play in build up.

    Then horrible defending from Lindelof brings it back to 4-2.

    Bruno fk & Cas finish makes it 4-3.

    Fin.

    When Amra / Mainoo avail would play Cas higher pivot on attack - at least he contributes to the attack and his mobility is becoming a big issue on transitions.

    Was actually better than I feared after the Brighton game.

    A lot of issues persist though.
     
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  9. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    The cycle is usually;

    - injured

    - back as sub but looks disinterested / reluctant

    - gets some more minutes and eventually starts looking just ok

    - after a few more games looks top quality for a game or two

    - gets injured again

    So hopefully he nails it for a few games before his next injury …
     
  10. Chaz Striker

    Chaz Striker Member+

    Jul 26, 2005
    Denver
    One would like to think that when you were booed while being subbed on for another player, the previous game, that it may be gave you a kick in the ass.




    Nahhhh, nevermind.
     
  11. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    re: Onana or Onana vs DdG and who is better

    this is what you get with Onana. comfortable on the ball and good passer but less of a shot stopper.

    DdG is a better shot stopper and a lesser passer.

    so depending on what you value we've improved the position, gotten worse or it's roughly net even
     
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  12. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    i think you missed "earns new contract" somewhere in there
     
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  13. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Except his passing really hasn't helped the team as a whole.

    As for this game, in the end we lose by a goal after Onana gifted them one and they got a cheap penalty.
     
  14. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jun 30, 2013
    Casper, WY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, Eriksen gifted them a PK.
     
  15. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    well as i said in the transfer window thread his passing will only help IF the team is functioning well.

    we can barely retain the ball for 5 passes anyway and we are leaking more than 2 goals a game so what does it matter than he can pass and sweep up.

    no one is in good form either. not a single player
     
  16. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    anyway before i forget

    +ves:

    Reguilón - looking like the Sevilla days again. if he keeps this up long term it will be an improvement overall at LB

    Højlund - scored, good attitude and effort. let's hope it doesn't get dminished by the overall mood

    ==============

    as an aside, what's going on with Martínez?? looks a shadow of the player from last season. worrying
     
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  17. Chaz Striker

    Chaz Striker Member+

    Jul 26, 2005
    Denver
    I guess I don’t see how onana is a priority for any fan’s issues with the team, currently.
     
  18. SF19

    SF19 Member+

    Jun 8, 2013
    Not the worst result. We might still top this group.
     
  19. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Partial mitigation is that almost every player around him is not who he is used to;

    - Lindelof as a CB pair rather than Varane

    - different / new LB in Reguilon & before that Dalot (who doesnt usually play LB) rather than Shaw

    - was Mount as left pivot in CM on defence (though back to Eriksen who he is used to - but also having a bad start to the season)

    - less of an issue but also a new gk behind him too

    However has still been poor, but his position is most disrupted by changes to those around him esp from injuries.
     
  20. JC7rox

    JC7rox Member+

    Manchester United FC, LAFC
    Jun 11, 2004
    West Coast, Cali!
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    There was some fight there at the end so that’s gotta be a plus.

    Playing Eriksen is like playing with one less player. Subbing him for McTominay is perfect cuz they both offer nothing. lol
     
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  21. SF19

    SF19 Member+

    Jun 8, 2013
    Martinez trying hard to play like Cannavaro and do everything on his own. Needs to trust his teammates more.
     
  22. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    would you?
     
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  23. SF19

    SF19 Member+

    Jun 8, 2013
    Not totally, just more. It's like with Rashford and his dribbles.

    Anyways, I think ten Hag is trying to get everyone to trust each other more. Some of the passing, movement has made us look like a team. But when we defend, everyone seems to be in their own world. And I think we are really missing Varane's leadership at the back. He's vital to us.
     
  24. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    You admit you need more defensively. So why play Eriksen, who has been a liability?

    We were never going to have possession this game, so play someone who can run and track.

    Hell, play Bruno deeper if you have to. Just give me someone who will actually run. Whether it's Scott playing 10 or Hannibal.
     
  25. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    ETH values possession so thats easy.

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    People are shitting on him. Ill post one DDG compilation from just the last season to remind you guys with bad memory.
     

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