U20s vs. Morocco, Oct. 12, 2025 (Pre-/PBP/Post-Match Thread)

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  1. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the crosser was double or triple teamed and the receivers were double or triple teamed as well.....doing so without a target forward

    it got especially worse once morrocco scored and figured out the usa was too scared to send numbers forward

    i mean this is simple elementary school mathematics.....you send 3 or 4 guys into 8 or 9 .....while those 8 or 9 are very athletic and pretty good defensively with high work rate......zero chance of scoring

    the simple solution was for the usa to bomb forward with everyone they had .....put 7 or 8 in the box.....

    mitrovic was too scared......and it was the only chance the team had.....


    you wait until you are down late in the game to try it? or do it when you have the edge and energy?

    i do it in the first half

    if the usa scored early, they probably win the game, imo

    as long as morroco was allowed by the us strategy to do the rope a dope and funnel the usa attacks out wide then knock off the extremely low chance crosses.....they had the upper hand despite being clearly less skilled than the usa


    its like what happened in some of the panama losses for the full usmnt....why play 2 dmids.....against a low block?????? you are torturing your own team and shrinking the margin of error in the name of "safety"

    let me tell you - this approach that mitrovic took - starting corcoran instead of habroune or someone else.....was a fatal mistake.

    how he didnt adjust is crazy to me.....


    the team was flummoxed and flustered the longer it went on. and this peruvian ref.....well he was the death knell.....totally corrupt

    the usa had to do was throw a lot of numbers into the attacks and score first. draw morrocco out....then they could take advantage and score on their own breakaways the second and more goals.....but morrocco never had to come out of their bunker.

    you have to recognize its not working and do something different

    also starting beaudry in the 3rd match was crazy....how can you stick with him after than new caledonia error? shouldve tried one of the other gk.....beaudry was a mess....zero chance he makes it at the top of the sport.....what a mess

    mitrovic really poorly constructed roster and some questionable picks.....

    the wingers were so bad and nonexistent....and you rely on their 1 on 1 ....? idk


    i just dont think hes really that good of a coach
     
  2. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Not sure how completed crosses is remotely comparable to 5 picks. One is pretty clearly a disaster, the other is sorta unclear what it means. Spain completed 45% of their crosses but lost 2-0. What does that mean?
     
  3. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    I finally got to watch this, and with no knowledge of the result and I haven't read the thread

    Really frustrating.

    I feel we win this one 8 out of 10, but we kinda own-goaled it, figuratively and literally.

    I'm assuming they finished with 3 goals on 2 shots on goal. That's brutal.

    But have to look back and call out a couple of players and Marko's decisions to play them.

    First, Beaudry. Now, I'm assuming Kochen would have been #1 , but instead we get to have him leave ...again... and avoid a cap tie. It's getting real old. But more just handing to Beaudry the tournament, well you saw what happened. I don't know about Feree, but for sure Beavers would have been an upgrade.

    Then why Corcoran in this one? He wasn't with this "1st team" all tournament and then he starts now? Why? Too conservative, which was echoed by the play of the whole team. Just not aggressive enough to try to punish them. Playing, fine...controlling the match...but you gotta go for the jugular.

    Frustrating.
     
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  4. IsrraelJimz

    IsrraelJimz Member

    Barcelona
    United States
    Nov 19, 2023
    Interesting fact: The same coach with a different USA U23 Olympic team lost in the quarterfinals 4-0 to Morocco. Definitely the players’ fault both times…
     
  5. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member+

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    I feel like it's more Morocco's fault
     
  6. IsrraelJimz

    IsrraelJimz Member

    Barcelona
    United States
    Nov 19, 2023
    So, let him coach the u17 at the WC and see what happens?
     
  7. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Could not do worse than the current coach. You’d do a better job than Segares.
     
  8. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    So, the US have lost to an eventual finalist in 4 out of the past 5 editions.
     
  9. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Morocco won
     
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  10. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    I didn't see too much of Argentina this tournament, but what I did see looked like a sure winner. Kudos to Morocco, they had the gameplan and the pieces and they did it without shame, and with a bit of style to boot.
     
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  11. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought we had a history of losing to the eventual winner. Kind of makes you rethink our success and wonder if we just get placed in the death side bracket. I mean we could have lost to these teams in the final each time instead!
     
  12. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Morocco had 25% possession and beat Argentina 2-0!

    Sounds similar to our game against them.
     
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  13. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member+

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    Morocco through the tournament:

    vs Spain: 29% possession
    vs Brazil: 36% possession
    vs Mexico: 43% possession
    vs South Korea: 47% possession (also their worst performance, even though they won)
    vs USA: 27% possession
    vs France: 48%
    vs Argentina: 25%

    Looking at field tilt, the difference is even more stark; the vast majority of every game took place in Morocco's defensive third.
     
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  14. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good for them. Trophies always matter, even if just a tiny bit.

    But as far as a leading indicator for their senior team, that isn’t a positive.
     
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  15. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I totally agree with your general point about success at the U20 level.

    However, they've had great recent success at the U20, U23, and senior national team levels.
    Their U17 team lost on penalties in the U17 AFCON Final, and will be at the World Cup.

    There are all sorts of data points to indicate a surge from Morocco.

    The leading indicate for their senior national team is they've lost one game in the last two calendar years. :)

    They are the favorites for the upcoming African Cup of Nations, which starts in December. Weird to have an AFCON so close to the World Cup, but there you go. They're the hosts, and the highest ranked team.

    Can we really blame Amir Richardson for picking Morocco? They're en fuego.

    Amir wasn't called up in the last window. The midfielders called up in the last window came from Roma, PSV, Betis, Leverkusen, Feyenoord, and Stutgart.

    The midfielders NOT CALLED UP (but have over the last calendar year) came from Girona, Fiorentina, Marseille, Lazio, and Auxerre. For Pete's sake!!
     
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  16. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    We should have won the tournament.
     
  17. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

    mine
    United States
    Aug 31, 2017
    With a group that people mostly didn't like. Yet, we are somehow not improving in our player development or something?

    ps - I'm not sure we would have matched up well with Argentina in the final, but I agree that we should have made it that far, at least.
     
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