U20 callup data now online and viewable

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Jun 23, 2016.

  1. Dough Boy

    Dough Boy Member

    Sep 27, 2014
    Not sure if you're still interested in this info, but Amir Bashti has now signed with ATL UTD 2.



    https://www.atlutd.com/post/2019/08/22/atlanta-united-2-signs-amir-bashti

    Marcello Borges is (was?) playing for Detroit City FC - not sure if he signed a pro contract. He was also recently hired as part of the coaching staff for Michigan Thunder.



     
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  2. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Thanks for this. I'd last spotted Bashti on trial in Germany, and didn't see that news.

    I confess I'm confused about Borges. I think the NISA is professional, but I'm not sure if Borges is part of that effort. Then there's the NPSL stuff. I'm guessing he wasn't a pro, but that is just a guess, and I'd love to be corrected.
     
  3. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Here's my list of 2017 U20 callups (mainly 97/98 YOBs) who aren't pros yet:

    Bell Jonathan -- Sr., UMBC
    Borges Marcello -- finished school at Michigan in 2019
    Burns David -- ??
    Jones Malcolm -- ??, does not appear to have played Sr. season at UCLA in 2018
    Kelly Jeremy -- Sr., UNC
    Lopez Leonardo "Leo" -- ??
    Martin Henry -- finished school at Princeton in 2019, may be working out of soccer
    Morris Jake -- So., Tyler JC
    Pelaez Pablo -- RS-Sr., San Diego State
    Pineda Mauricio -- Sr., UNC
    Popovic Nebojsa "Nash" -- playing as a graduate student at U-Mich.
    Salas Martin -- Sr., UNC
    Silva Diego -- Thought he would be a Sr. at Utah Valley, but not on roster
    Suddoth Toni -- ??, lower-division Germany but I would guess did not ever sign a pro contract
    Terwege Brandon -- Jr., SMU
    Wilson Sean -- RS-Sr., Xavier
    Winter Abu -- Thought he would be a Jr. at York, but not on roster​

    @Sandon Mibut, Silva appears (after seemingly turning up at UVU) to have un-turned up there. I would guess most of the guys currently in D1 soccer will at least have a chance to continue their careers if they choose to, but who knows.
     
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  4. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
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  5. headerdunce

    headerdunce Member

    Dec 19, 2005
    I think Taylor Booth is part of this group but I'm not sure if he has been called up recently.
     
  6. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Presumably he will be but there's only been one camp for the 01/02 group so far and he wasn't there. With that said, do we know if he has a pro contract yet?
     
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  7. headerdunce

    headerdunce Member

    Dec 19, 2005
    I don't know what type of contract Booth signed with Bayern earlier this year. It's been reported as a "two and a half year" deal, and he's playing for the Bayern U19s. Ten years ago, that would have been considered a professional contract in Germany, but I am out of the loop. Do German clubs have informal, youth team contracts for U19s now?

    Either way, I like Booth as a prospect.
     
  8. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    One can certainly be in a club's academy without being professional. Dest, for example, signed a pro deal with Ajax last December, though he had been with the club for years. I'm sure there are YNT-relevant German examples too, I'm just too lazy to think of one... and in any case, I just try to be careful for tracking purposes, though I guess it's also pertinent in the sense that without a pro contract, first-team (and perhaps certain other) appearances are unlikely.
     
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  9. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Following the Costa Rica match, 11 members of the 2019 U20 pool have received at least one cap. That doesn't include Adams (who does however count for 2017); I do count Ferreira, however, since he got a callup while not yet a citizen but is one now.

    The pool obviously includes several guys who seem very close and a few others who are maybe not quite as close but are on their way. And it's worth noting that Aaronson wasn't called in but now has been capped. (That's not something I track unless someone makes a World Cup roster but I figure someone else does...)

    And Llanez is the first member of the current cycle to get a cap, though he has't technically been called up for the new U20s yet.
     
  10. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Did I miss any outdoor pro contracts (at any level) from this group?

    Bell Jonathan
    Borges Marcello
    Burns David
    Jones Malcolm
    Lopez Leonardo "Leo"
    Martin Henry
    Morris Jake
    Pelaez Pablo
    Popovic Nebojsa "Nash"
    Salas Martin
    Suddoth Toni
    Terwege Brandon
    Wilson Sean
    Winter Abu​
     
  11. NoHammiesAltidore

    United States
    Jun 28, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bell signed a pro deal with the Revolution's second team yesterday.
     
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  12. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Herrera's cap brings the number of guys from the 2017 (97/98) pool to get MNT appearances to 15 (out of 87 total guys called up). One could certainly see this number rising, with Mauricio Pineda seemingly next in line, but there are a few other guys out there who might also get in.
     
  13. NoHammiesAltidore

    United States
    Jun 28, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Borges was playing with New York Cosmos in NISA back in the fall, I'd assume on a pro deal. I haven't found anything confirming a pro deal.
     
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  14. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    If he played for them in the NISA, I think that by definition is a pro deal -- pretty sure the NISA is fully professional across the board. Have you seen a signing announcement or box score?
     
  15. NoHammiesAltidore

    United States
    Jun 28, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  16. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    These are the only guys I have with 2021 cycle callups who I'm not sure have pro contracts -- maybe the Europe-based ones do, but it's not clear to me. Anyone know?

    Benalcazar Nico
    Boateng Kwabena
    Pierre Kurowskybob "Bobby"
    Ritchie Stuart
    Schulte Patrick
    Stojanovic Stefan​
     
  17. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Separately -- are there any missing pro contracts among these guys from the 2019 U20s? I believe Salas was drafted but not sure he signed:


    Becher Simon
    Davis Gideon
    Marks George
    Mendoza Glademir
    Nicola Chris
    Tracey Greg
    Vom Steeg Carson
    Garces Justin
    Morris Jake
    Salas Mark
    Stiebel Seth
    Zarris Aristotle
    Zawadski Sean​
     
  18. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    A pro deal for Salas was announced the day after I posted this:

    https://www.fcdallas.com/news/north...north-carolina-and-fc-dallas-academy-product-
     
  19. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Becher Simon -- rising senior at SLU, led team in goals last season
    Davis Gideon -- rising junior at Gonzaga, starter last season
    Marks George -- rising senior at Clemson, starter last saeson
    Mendoza Glademir -- rising senior at NAIA Ottawa (Ariz.), starter last season
    Nicola Chris -- DNP last season at Va. Tech for reasons I didn't look into, but seems to be a rising junior
    Tracey Greg -- rising senior at Portland, frequent starter last season
    Vom Steeg Carson -- RS-Jr. at UCSB in 2019; team played only exhibitions last season and I don't know if he played in them
    Garces Justin -- rising senior at UCLA, starter last season
    Morris Jake -- rising senior at UCLA, contributing reserve last season
    Stiebel Seth -- was a freshman at SLU for 2018 season, appears to have been hurt
    Zarris Aristotle -- rising junior at Wake Forest, DNP last season
    Zawadski Sean -- rising senior at G'town, starter last season​
     
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  20. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Sorry, mistyped. Morris is at Campbell, not UCLA.
     
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  21. stooviesoccer

    stooviesoccer New Member

    Bayern München
    United States
    Jul 9, 2021
    Any info on Andres Jimenez? Last I saw he was with Envigado in Colombia, but am not sure if that is up to date.
     
  22. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Now that we're through the first three matches of WCQ, I can update the U20 callup tracker -- which, you might recall, attempts to follow the progress of players called into U20 pools as they advance through the system. Covid and a, let's say, gradual restart of the YNTs has kind of broken the data a bit, but there are bigger things to worry about.

    Anyway -- Pepi has not yet been called into a U20 program, but he's now capped at the WCQ level, despite still being age-eligible for one. That's, at a minimum, rare if not unprecedented, certainly in the post-90s era, certainly x2 for U.S.-born/raised/based players.

    Among other things, the 99/00 group is starting to rack-up WCQ appearances -- there are now several who have them, with many likely contributors not yet involved.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lfMvt087D65kHEJtitNuODh4dPgpKCQTi6Ae9VJ2c0g/edit?usp=sharing
     
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  23. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Updating my tracker through the latest round of WCQs, the 99/00 U20 pool continues to be massively consequential to the program; 7 guys with U20 callups during that cycle now have WCQ appearances, and that doesn't include Adams, who wasn't called up for that one but was previously. The two previous "classes" have 10 players with WCQs combined.

    Meanwhile, those 99/00s who don't yet have WCQ appearances include both a number of players who could certainly figure during this or the next cycle, and some quality players who have switched out. (Araujo played with these guys though he was playing up.)
     
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  24. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Carson vom Steeg signed with Loudoun. That's one more pro for the 2019 U20 class, with more boxes to be checked soon...
     
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  25. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was starting to think that this guy had disappeared, but he has made three first-team appearances for Envigado in the 2022 season.
     
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