Kartunen was an MLS pool keeper for a little while. I'm pretty sure he never got into a game, though.
Altamirano played some with Albion Pro's and the Sockers (indoor) but nothing other than that. From what I can tell he is still playing soccer but in a rec league. Awesome list!
With Yosef Samuel signing a pro contract in the USL, more than 50% of the players called up thus far are already professionals. http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads...ualifying-thread.2020279/page-32#post-3463347
The sheet has been updated with the 22-player England camp. Does anyone know if Suddoth is technically a professional? At present, I'm not counting him as one.
Just one correction, I don't think Sabbi was at the NTC Invitational camp in June/July 2016. That would make Klinsmann, Borges, Mansaray, and Sabbi the co-leaders in camp call ups, with six each -- though Klinsmann didn't show up to one of those camps, for whatever reason.
This spreadsheet has been updated with the Costa Rica camp data. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lfMvt087D65kHEJtitNuODh4dPgpKCQTi6Ae9VJ2c0g/edit
I can only find a handful of players from the 2003 (83/84 cycle) who might not have played pro outdoor soccer. Chun David Dinnal Kirk Hartman Jon Schuerman Adam Simo Chefik Simo, of course, was hurt in the 2002 crash that killed highly regarded YNTer Gray Griffin. http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/201...-captain-gray-griffin-killed-in-auto-accident That's 36 pros out of 41 callups by my count. Despite the size of that pool, small by current U20 standards, it has produced 11 capped players, 8 guys with WCQ minutes, four WC roster guys and an all-time great (Dempsey) -- plus Arturo Alvarez (El Salvador MNT) and a number of "almost" guys. Also of note, three American-born and -raised guys from this group made World Cup rosters without a single U20 callup -- Bornstein, Guzan and Wondo. Plus, Zak Whitbread!
Far as I can tell, every player in the 32-player 2001 cycle (the 81/82 "Donovan Group") went pro except Guy Abrahamson. I could be wrong and I just don't have detailed enough records for that period, but I can only find a single camp before qualifying, then four afterwards. Obviously this bunch produced some terrific players. It also missed completely on Herc Gomez and Clarence Goodson. And Jermaine Jones was part of this age group but not in the mix at the time.
I have some records for previous groups, though relatively little. If anybody feels like digging into that stuff a bit, feel free to share what you have here and I'll update the sheet.
With the GA deals for Yueill and Robinson, we're now at 41* of 76 players called in so far this U20 cycle with professional contracts. More HG deals certainly seem possible before qualifying, and perhaps some additional overseas moves as well. * I may be wrong on some overseas players technical status; I've tried to under- rather than overcount. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lfMvt087D65kHEJtitNuODh4dPgpKCQTi6Ae9VJ2c0g/edit?usp=sharing
I've started to check a few more boxes as guys from past U20 callup groups get pro contracts -- right now, holding off on a few draftees until they actually make rosters, but the 2015 group is already at at least 55 signed pros, with quite a few more more likely to come (out of 79 total players). A few of these remaining 2013 stragglers might get checked off too (please advise if any of them already have pro contracts): Decker Ethan Edwards Dakota Fender Holden Guzman Flavio McGuire Jake Oliver Andrew Torre Javan Vogel Derek Wendelken Matt Wiesenfarth Matt
Of that last group, by the way, Vogel ended up at Navy, so a pro career is unlikely. McGuire was drafted by Houston this year. Also, I forgot that Wiesenfarth got a deal in New Zealand.
Callup tracker updated with the qualifying roster: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lfMvt087D65kHEJtitNuODh4dPgpKCQTi6Ae9VJ2c0g/edit?usp=sharing
Here's a semi-current list of nonpros from the 2015 cycle -- some of them will surely be on pro rosters this coming U.S. season: Caldwell Jeff Olsen Thomas Amick Michael Baird Corey Dainkeh Sulaiman Duvernay Caleb Fracchia Matias Gasper Chase Haberkorn Trevor Hayes Jacori Lema Christopher Lillard Grant Lopez-Espin Ricardo Markey Jalen Odoi-Atsem Chris Polley Miguel Reaves Kristoffer Rozhansky Jake Sagel Robert Smith Caleb Wannemuehler Travis Winn Alan I'm holding off checking the "pro" box for drafted players until I see the team rosters. And some of these guys are still in school.
I've updated the current cycle U20 callup/career data through qualifying, including some recent signings. (I still need to go back and update some past cycles, which I'll do after the USL/NASL seasons start.) As of now for 2017 I have 47 current pros out of 79 total players, though I might have some Europe-based players incorrect. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lfMvt087D65kHEJtitNuODh4dPgpKCQTi6Ae9VJ2c0g/edit?usp=sharing
And here are the current U20s not on pro contracts by my count: Bashti Amir Bell Jonathan Borges Marcello Burns David Elney Sebastian Gutjahr Jeremiah Herrera Aaron Hinds Nicholas "Nick" Jones Malcolm Kelly Jeremy Klinsmann Jonathan Lindley Cameron Lopez Leo Marcinkowski James "JT" Martin Henry Mendes Lucas Morris Jake Nelson John Onalfo Christian Pelaez Pablo Pineda Mauricio Poarch Chad Popovic Nebojsa "Nash" Salas Martin Sargent Joshua Scott Brady Silva Diego Suddoth Toni Waldrep Evan Williamson Eryk Wilson Sean Winter Abu Hard to know how many more of those could be professionals by the end of the cycle in early to mid June. (I'm also not sure about Suddoth.) Many of them seem pretty likely to head back to college, but as the Lombard signing shows, negotiations are ongoing for some guys.
Updated (slightly) so it's down to this -- did I miss any pro contracts? Caldwell Jeff Olsen Thomas Baird Corey Dainkeh Sulaiman Duvernay Caleb Fracchia Matias Gasper Chase Haberkorn Trevor Lema Christopher Lillard Grant Lopez-Espin Ricardo Markey Jalen Polley Miguel Reaves Kristoffer Rozhansky Jake Sagel Robert Smith Caleb Wannemuehler Travis Winn Alan
she just found about your whole Big Soccer activity? or just this thread? what on earth has she though you've been doing.. is she mortified, proud, upset? please share.
The fact is that I was adding the latest U20 callups into my Google doc while the baby was napping when, suddenly, I heard those three little words every man fears: "So, what'cha doin'?" I actually showed her this thread. She was surprisingly cool with the entire thing -- what can I say, that's my girl.
The 2017 sheet of my spreadsheet has been updated with the Finals roster: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lfMvt087D65kHEJtitNuODh4dPgpKCQTi6Ae9VJ2c0g/edit?usp=sharing
I've made a few tweaks to the 2017 sheet, mostly pertaining to guys who have signed pro contracts I didn't have. I added Lucas Mendes (who went pro during the cycle) and noted the post-Finals deals for Kunga, Klinsmann and Scott. Here's what I think is a current list of still-amateur guys from the 2017 cycle -- which, obviously, includes some guys who could go pro at any minute. Bashti Amir Bell Jonathan Borges Marcello Burns David Elney Sebastian Gutjahr Jeremiah Herrera Aaron Hinds Nicholas "Nick" Jones Malcolm Kelly Jeremy Lindley Cameron Lopez Leo Marcinkowski James "JT" Martin Henry Morris Jake Nelson John Onalfo Christian Pelaez Pablo Pineda Mauricio Poarch Chad Popovic Nebojsa "Nash" Salas Martin Sargent Joshua Silva Diego Suddoth Toni Terwege Brandon Toye Mason Waldrep Evan Williamson Eryk Wilson Sean Winter Abu
Here's what is hopefully a current list of remaining 2015 amateurs: Caldwell Jeff Olsen Thomas Baird Corey Dainkeh Sulaiman Duvernay Caleb Fracchia Matias Gasper Chase Haberkorn Trevor Lema Christopher Lillard Grant Lopez-Espin Ricardo Markey Jalen Polley Miguel Reaves Kristoffer Rozhansky Jake Sagel Robert Smith Caleb Wannemuehler Travis Winn Alan The next guy to have a "box checked" from this cap could be Roldan, should Arena play him in the Gold Cup.