U17s vs. Czech Republic, Nov. 11, 2025 (Pre-/PBP/Post-Match Thread)

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by deejay, Nov 10, 2025.

  1. RecLeague Super Sub

    Fulham
    United States
    Jun 5, 2019
    At the end of the day, you have to beat the best to be the best or to make a noteworthy run.

    of course I’d like to be in the cupcake bracket, but we have to play other strong squads and perform regardless.
     
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  2. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    In fairness, I don't know what the hell Morocco is. They were good, at home, in qualifying, and they sucked in the group stage. After that you get either Mali, who pushed Morocco to penalties away in their championship final, or Zambia, who tied Morocco in the group stage of that tournament, before getting absolutely eviscerated by Burkina Faso in the opening knockout match. Feel like Zambia sounds like an easier opponent in the R16's if we beat Morocco, and then Zambia turned around and beat Indonesia and Honduras to the tune of an 8-2 combined score, before nearly beating Brazil yesterday (gave up the equalizer in the 80something minute in a draw.

    So hard to figure, but yeah, I still think beat Morocco, I'd rather have Zambia than Mali next. Otoh, Mali got clubbed by Austria but beat the other two weaklings in the group.

    On top of all this, as others mentioned, Morocco gets TWO!?!?!! days more rest than us? Really?!?!?! WTF is that?
     
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  3. Reccossu

    Reccossu Member+

    Jan 31, 2005
    Birmingham
    Why punish group winners like that? Weird.
     
  4. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I really liked Moisa in the last game.
     
  5. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For us to go far, we need a 9 that can finish.
    So far it has been the Albert-Sullivan-Berchimas show that got us this far.
     
  6. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Meh - winners of tournaments often get luck by having an easier path to the finals. I don’t need to beat anyone good as long as we win.
     
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  7. RecLeague Super Sub

    Fulham
    United States
    Jun 5, 2019
    True, but based on what I’m seeing/hearing in here, neither side of the bracket is really an easy path. And none of us really know who the stronger sides are in terms of 16 year olds, I think most are just looking at nation name recognition as some sort of clue
     
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  8. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Chase can finish. He gets a goal every 150 minutes in MLS Next Pro which should be sufficient for this level. He just isn't getting the minutes because we are trying to keep Julian Hall happy.
     
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  9. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I feel like Hall has a better case for minutes on the wing than Berchimas, and you could argue Carrizo too.

    I think in general we're trying to keep too many big name attackers happy. I think we need to accept that Adams doesn't play as flashy of a game as these wingers/10's, but he needs to be in there to do #9 things that you need to have success in a tournament like this.

    How often does the false nine approach work?
     
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  10. Ball Chucking Hack

    Jan 21, 2005
    Raleigh, NC
    I do not feel like this. Less so today, bc he played so little, but Berchimas has been pretty good.
     
  11. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    Any video out there of Sullivan's run?
     
  12. RecLeague Super Sub

    Fulham
    United States
    Jun 5, 2019


    Watch at the 6.36 mark
     
  13. Dynamo Kev

    Dynamo Kev Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    Also, getting 2 days more rest is a big/undeserved advantage for Morocco in this game.
     
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  14. Dynamo Kev

    Dynamo Kev Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    I would have given Adams the start v Czech and put Hall on the wing. But since that didn't happen, Hall gets the start up top v Morocco. Berchimas has been the third best attacker, so he starts out wide. The biggest problem, which has been a problem for 2 years now, is starting Cavan and Max in the middle. I don't think the risk is worth the reward, so I would drop Max for Moisa.
     
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  15. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    The defense did a nice job making it hard in the final third without fouling. Sullivan did a nice job staying up. Woulda been quite the moment!
     
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  16. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I like the tremendous switch at the 3:20 mark. It's one thing that a CM can keep possession while being double teamed but the ability to recognize an open man and have the passing range to send a 30 yard switch while being pressed is a hard to find tool. Yes the pass was still short a few yards and easily cut off but you can see the potential of what he is working on.
     
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  17. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Hall is playing out of position. I don’t care how he’s done in those games. He’s proven the last two years in pro soccer that he’s a better winger and player than Berchimas.
     
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  18. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hall tended to disappear from games when played up top during the Red Bulls’ season. He actually looked better as an attacking central midfielder behind the strikers or in the half spaces.
     
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  19. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    I cannot understand why at bare minimum, teams playing Tuesday weren't automatically scheduled for Saturday's set of knockout matches.
     
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  20. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I'm rewatching the game and I have lots of reservations on the gameplan.

    From my review, it seems like Czechia rotated their players for the Burkina Faso game and brought in more starters against us. We had pretty heavy rotation particularly on the bands. For some reason Hall is the CF. We are playing a low block, not pressing, and building up slowly. The plus to this is that this is a great technical exercise for development and a lower energy gameplan. The negative is that this pretty much allows the Czechs to play their best game of quick transition forward. What made it work in the end was not a better game plan but substituting better and more technical players.

    In the end, it worked good enough, we were already qualified and it shows that the staff and the team don't fear these teams. I just hope we are more pragmatic in the knockout rounds.
     
  21. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I can guess why the Czech coach was so petty and pissed off at us. We didn't press. We didn't play long balls to speeding forwards. We disrespected them quite a bit.
     
  22. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Berchimas has been the third best player in this team. So far, Hall hasn't looked better than Berch the few times he has been playing wide.
     
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  23. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sullivan plays at full speed. He is not a 90-minute player. At around minute 70 he was waving off a pass to the other side because he was winded. When we scored, he hardly ran to greet his teammates.
     
  24. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I don't think he has played wide. He should have played wide against Czechia but was central.
     
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  25. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, he was the CF but in a couple of plays, he was wide and wasn't able to get around the defender, plays that Berch has been more successful.
     

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