they will get a foreign coach what does this mean? it means that the u.s/mexico rivalry will be better than ever. The u.s has never had such good talent, mexico will play harder. Everytime mexico plays the u.s mexico plays like crap. Im sure most of you noticed how mexico plays so arrogant,slow and calmed down in attitude, an attitude to SHOW that the u.s is inferior, in all the u.s games against mexico. They play with an attitude that they want to show that they ARE IN CONTROL, THAT THEY CAN BEAT US WITH LITTLE EFFORT AND THAT THEY ARE BETTER! of course THAT IS NOT TRUE! in the game in colorado mexico came out with that laid back attitude, thinking they could win with little effort, that player for player THEY ARE BETTER BUT IT DIDNT WORK! what happened next? MEXICAN PLAYERS PLAYING DIRTY LIKE ALWAYS TRYING TO TAKE OUT THE U.S PLAYER! The last time mexico really fought for a win was in estadio azteca, only because they had 100 thousand people watching and they couldnt lose at home to us, BUT ONLY COULD WIN 1-0. Now that they have a foreign coach the coach wont have that arrogant attitude telling his players that the us is nothing compared to mexico since he has no beef with america. what does this mean? it means that we should see better us/mexico games, which will be tougher for the u.s but our young players are better and bruce arena is a better coach than he was when he started the campaign.
Re: Re: U.S vs Mexico: Better than Ever? Here is a homework assignment Mr. Mod. Go research all the FIFA Under-Whatever Intl tournaments in the past 4 years that didnt start the day after 9/11, and get back to me... oh wait...Mexico didnt bring the "A" team...nevermind
Re: Re: Re: U.S vs Mexico: Better than Ever? I dont think that Mexicos U-21/23 squads played against the USMNT's in that time period. Not only that but the current National youth teams in Mexico are all new players..
I think I'll give the origninal poster the benefit of the doubt here. I don't think he was comparing our youth teams to Mexico's, but rather was saying that our youth teams are getting better all the time, goes along with the Bruce Arena statement. And I agree with him to. I'd say that the US and Mexico for the first time are on eual footing. For now anyhow. And that leads to a better rivalry. I seriously doubt that either country will be able to consistently beat the other on home ground.
Re: Re: Re: Re: U.S vs Mexico: Better than Ever? I wasnt meaning USA vs Mexico matches...I meant overall at all the underage levels, including olympics...I'll be the teacher and do your homework for you U-17 World Championships New Zealand 1999 USA finishes 4th, has the Gold and Silver Ball winner AND beat Mexico 3-2 in the 1/8th finals U-17 World Championships Trinidad and Tobago 2001 USA loses all 3 matches in a group the included Champion France and Runner-Up Nigeria...the torunament started 2 days after the 9/11 attacks Mexico doesn't qualify U-19 World Championships Nigeria 1999 USA Advances to 1/16th Finals losing to Eventual Champion Spain Mexico Advances to quarter finals losing to Japan 2-0 U-19 World Championships Argentina 2001 USA Advances to 1/16 losing to eventual 3rd place finisher Egypt Mexico doesn't qualify Sydney 2000 Olympics (u-23) USA Finishes 4th Mexico doesnt qualify =================================== In closing Mexico out performed the US in one of 5 tournaments, and only even qualified for 2 of 5 where as the US qualified for every tournament. The original post however didn't say Youth squads...he said "young players". So taking into account today's ages of the players in all these tourneys since 1999, the ages would now be between 18 - 24, which given the results of the above facts, would make the accomplishments of the US players, well...better. Not to mention that 5 of these 18-24 year olds were on the roster of the World Cup team the , if I remember correctly, beat Mexico 2-0... Now, I'm not going to get into a "USA is better than Mexico" argument, even with the fact thatwe have pretty much owned the series between the 2 in the past 4 or 5 years. I am actually one of the few USA supporters that greatly respects El Tri as a team (the players are another story, i have little respect for most of them). I do seriously hope however, that as the orignal poster stated that Mexico starts taking the USA seriously. No more sending Pumas as the national squad for example, and I believe that both teams will benifit from it. Mexico is no longer leaps above anyone anymore, and they need to realize that, and start taking CONCACAF more seriously, get their youth programs in better shape if they want to regain "supremecy" over the region again, because the USA and even Costa Rica is quickly making this a three horse race and El Tri will be losing the race if they dont start developing the younger players better... just my 2 cents
I think loosing to the US in the World Cup should be more than enough to have everyone in Mexico taking the US seriously. Add the fact that the US has dominated Mexico over the last several years, and anyone in Mexico who isn't taking the US seriously is pretty much a moron.
BA is a better coach now because he had been able to get rid the monkey on his back, he is on a roll now flying higher than ever.
now, they now where they're standing. We should now focusing on how to reach level those European teams.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: U.S vs Mexico: Better than Ever? I am aware of the Youth Tourneys and the results.This however does not represent Mexicos overall young players. I am certain that in future match ups Mex/U.S we will see the familiar US-21/23 players like Twellman. Mexico on the other hand will have players that did not go through the youth squads but have been impresive in league play.
Costa Rica was obviously the best team in CONCACAF throughout qualifying. They got a poor draw in the Finals though. Honduras is also knocking at the door, along with Jamaica. It is plainly obvious that Mexico is not going to rule CONCACAF like they used to, but it will help their team that the competition is better now.