U.S. Soccer Could Use a Kobe Bryant

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by JeremyEritrea, Jun 28, 2010.

  1. JeremyEritrea

    JeremyEritrea Member+

    Jun 29, 2006
    Takoma Park, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pretty good article from the New York Times on Kobe Bryant's trip to S. Africa to watch the USA.


     
  2. uclacarlos

    uclacarlos Member+

    Aug 10, 2003
    east coast
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
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    First. Touch. THAT's what it's about.

    Not. Athletes.
     
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  3. Pandy Flapjack

    Pandy Flapjack The Pompitous of Love

    Aug 30, 2003
    Van by the River
    We do have a Kobe Bryant-like player - Our star player is in the papers for a possible "indescresion ;)" scandal [edited for the young ones]
     
  4. JeremyEritrea

    JeremyEritrea Member+

    Jun 29, 2006
    Takoma Park, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did you read the article?
     
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  5. KennyWoo

    KennyWoo Member

    May 21, 2007
    Pasadena, California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, Klinsmann has a grand plan to improve U.S. soccer, which amounts to going on TV and saying we need a better first touch, so at least we're in good hands.:rolleyes:
     
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  6. Kool Herc

    Kool Herc Member

    Oct 17, 2008
    Dallas
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know its been bandied around ad-nauseum but for me, a true world superstar is what the sport needs to really take off on a week-in/week-out basis here in the States.

    If we had a superstar player at an Arsenal/Real Madrid I think there would be plenty of buzz around the water cooler about watching our star player the past weekend.

    The NBA was in terrible shape prior to the arrival of Magic and Larry and then went to new heights with Jordan; we clearly like Stars.

    IMO thats ultimately what MLS/soccer needs in the USA - week-in/week-out buzz (not once every 4 years) about someone/something big - that level of attention would increase exposure and trickle down interest to what we have here.
     
  7. cklab

    cklab Member

    Jan 3, 2008
    Dallas
    To be honest, it sounds like that could conceivably be Jozy Altidore. Assuming he develops into a finisher with a killer instinct and not the American version of Emile Heksey.
     
  8. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    one seems more likely than the other. on second thought, Heskey is quite good in the air so probably neither.
     
  9. dsnipes1

    dsnipes1 Member

    Aug 12, 2005
    i was living in south korea when park ji sung moved from psv to manchester united. while at psv (along with lee young pyo), all psv matches were televised live in korea; but once park went to man u, every sports network went crazy with stories about park at united and certainly every match (epl, carling cup, fa cup, champions league) was broadcast live and replayed several times a week.

    i know that soccer holds a different place in korean society than it does in the u.s., but i agree that having a true star at a top club in the world would do wonders for soccer in america. it has been clear throughout all of espn's broadcasts in the world cup so far that they are hugely pimping the premier league in preparation for the coming season. if we had an everyday starter at manchester united or chelsea, i think espn would get behind him, include his highlights on sportscenter, and run plenty of background stories on their networks. that would definitely produce the constant attention and interest in soccer at the highest level that we need.
     
  10. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm always mystified why first touch is not considered an athletic trait by so many on BigSoccer.. If you want to complain that we choose soccer players only on the basis of how fast they are in a 5K race, I agree. But I've never met a youth player with good touch who was not an athlete. Coordination and balance are athletic skills. Period.
     
  11. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And while we hope for the American Messi, Kobe is looking for Peter Crouch.....:p
     
  12. cklab

    cklab Member

    Jan 3, 2008
    Dallas
    yeah ask Michael Bradley how good Jozy is in the air...
     
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  13. ADUEDUALTIDORE

    ADUEDUALTIDORE New Member

    Aug 25, 2008
    This is why Freddy Adu was so important to U.S Soccer. The casual fan still asks, "What happened to Freddy Adu". Usually followed by the "Wasn't he supposed to be the next Pele". All that is left is the head-shake while looking down at the floor with a slight grimace, insinuating what a failure his career has become.
     
  14. dban

    dban Member

    May 20, 2003
    PhillyBurbs - Delawareside
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry but it's not that cut and dried.

    See Adu, Fredua - terrific first touch
     
  15. elephantstone

    elephantstone Member

    Feb 12, 2001
    Harrisburg, PA
    Kobe Bryant is hardly the biggest, strongest, fastest player in the NBA, so complaining that "athletes" are not what we need seems to be missing the point.
     
  16. exref

    exref Member

    Aug 1, 2009
    Louisville, KY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, American soccer does not need another rapist.
     
  17. pupusa3000

    pupusa3000 Member

    May 15, 2001
    East Bay Area
    Kobe is becoming a friend of US soccer. And that is good.

    Besides the bitch wanted it
     
  18. rtung

    rtung Member

    Aug 20, 1999
    Chicago, IL, USA
    Feet-eye coordination isn't the same as hand-eye coordination. For that matter, in general, certain athletic skills that are extremely important in one sport are not so important in another sport. Michael Jordan sucked at hitting a round ball with a cylindrical bat (at least, he wasn't anywhere close to the level where people would pay him to do that for a living). I don't think anyone would deny that he had the athletic skills & physique required to excel in basketball.

    I understand that athletes who excel on one sport will still, in general, be much better than the average Joe at another sport, but that doesn't mean they would have been good enough to make career out of playing that other sport if only they had started playing it as a child.
     
  19. bwach

    bwach Member

    Feb 18, 2006
    Cleveland
    Actually - I think all we really need is a fast guy up front.
     
  20. Flyin Ryan

    Flyin Ryan Member

    May 13, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No it's not. Short of guys on soccer boards and guys that go to bars at 7 in the morning, in other words the diehards, I don't think we'll ever see a large number of people in this country care about European soccer.

    That was called Beckham (who the whites saw as a star) and Blanco (who the Mexicans saw as a star).


    FWIW, Bill Simmons discussing soccer always thought Allen Iverson would've been a superstar if he'd played soccer instead of basketball.
     
  21. SeaOtter

    SeaOtter Member

    Nov 7, 2006
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's one knock down. Jozy's not exactly known for having that club in his bag.

    Jozy has obviously improved leaps and bounds in a target role. I'm not knocking his progress, but he's got a long way to go for even Heskey comparisons to be realistic.
     
  22. cc-atl

    cc-atl Member

    Jul 8, 2005
    If I remember correctly Iverson was player of the year in Virginia for basketball and football when he was in highschool. I think you can put any sport in this sentence and be correct:

    Allen Iverson would've been a superstar if he'd played _________ instead of basketball
     
  23. miked9

    miked9 Member+

    May 4, 2000
    Philadelphia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not funny. Not "edgy." Not cool.
     
  24. cklab

    cklab Member

    Jan 3, 2008
    Dallas
    eh... I'd have to go back and watch the games again, or find a thread where someone has analyzed the stats (if only my lunch hour were longer than an hour), but I'm inclined to say Jozy was really good in the air this World Cup, especially when it counted against Slovenia.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ws/7830763/Slovenia-2-USA-2-match-report.html
     
  25. Adam Zebrowski

    Adam Zebrowski New Member

    May 28, 1999
    AI best sport was QB...state tltle in virginia...

    KOBE LIVED IN ITALY for several years as a kid, as JOE BRYANT his dad, played there after the NBA...

    hence KOBE's early exposure to the game..
     

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