Pre-match: U.S. MNT Oct. 10 vs Ecuador

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  1. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Klinsmann is hard on guys but when he believes in you it takes a lot for him to drop you. Corona hasn't done enough in recently to start and Shea keeps making friendly squads, despite all the preaching Klinsman does.

    I think it will be more of the same this friendly. We will have to wait until January to see new mls guys get a shot.

    Also, like what was mentioned before Klinsman is probably going to play guys like Altidore and Shea to show case and even Mix (he deserves it) since his contract is up in December.

    I only see Zardes and Donovan getting into this game.
     
  2. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Colorado is toast whereas teams like Galaxy have important games coming up in October. Putting Jozy's hamstring on a transatlantic plane ride isnt as good for him as letting him compete for a starting job in Sdland. As far as Shea or Mix or Corona is concerned, I am neutral, let Jk do as he likes.
     
  3. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Doesn't matter if they play a similar game. They are late bloomers that finally started playing well for whatever reason in their prime years in MLS. That doesn't make you skeptical that they might just have maxed out their career's as good MLS players playing the best soccer of their life? Wondo's best just wasn't good enough against good competition, and he has a similar profile to Nguyen in the sense that they both started playing well at around age 26-27 in what should be the absolute prime of their career. Before that they hadn't really been on the radar in the years leading up to their great success in MLS.
     
  4. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I see it differently and I always will with the National Team. If I see someone who I believe just isn't good enough, I'd like to see them discarded so there are more opportunities for some other players to emerge and adequately fill the role that the player that wasn't good enough couldn't fill.

    We disagree about Wondo. I don't see much of a need to rehash this same conversation thats been had before. You will point to the goals against minnows and the B team's of South Korea and Mexico and I will point to how he has played against the best of the best. I guess we just won't ever agree on this, so I think its best to not ruin the thread with the same discussion that has been had so many times about Wondo.
     
  5. soccerusa517

    soccerusa517 Member+

    Jun 23, 2009
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Please call up Paul Arriola. Consistently scores and/or assists while with our U20's.

    Question: can this team play a 4-3-3 with Dempsey?
     
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  6. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure. it may look more like a 4-2-3-1 with Dempsey but it is in the same vein.
     
  7. Goldtone

    Goldtone Member+

    Aug 8, 2013
    California
    Club:
    Udinese Calcio
    Not sure if GCam would be called up but he is going under the knife for "a troublesome hernia" according to BBC Sport.
     
  8. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He is 29 heading for 30. GCam was never in 2018 plans. Hope he is still at a high level for 2016.
     
  9. StrikerX4

    StrikerX4 Member

    Jun 16, 2011
    Lawrence, NJ
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know. No reason Geoff couldn't play his way on to the team in the Beckerman role in 2018. But I would think he's rule out for this next friendly.

    I don't know how fair that is. Klinsmann has afforded opportunities in non-crucial situations to a guy like Shea, but he wasn't included in the 30-man for the WC or anything. I think based on his chance creation in some nats games, seeing if he could shine in the last match was justified. Given Brek's play, I actually doubt he gets another chance unless he turns it on for a club.

    I think this roster will feature more experience than the last one, but that's not really a big stretch. I expect some MLS guys, but I would hope that Dempsey, Yedlin, etc. are allowed to stay with Seattle given their match and the SS race.
     
  10. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Put me down to see Lee Nguyen. I have to think that JK is watching and sees he may finally get the '10' he wanted out of Feilhaber.
     
  11. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    no he hasn´t.
    mexico b team friendly and south korea c team friendlies dont qualify.
    did he score against ....
    spain? no
    chile?no
    canada (3x)?no, no, and no.
    scotland? no.
    austria?no.
    nigeria?no.
    portugal?no.
    belgium? i dont even have to answer that one.

    he did score against heavyweights belize, cuba and guatemala though.
     
  12. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Not so sure Rimando is headed for retirement.
     
  13. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Alright, you don't rate Wondo at even the low level I do, let's agree to disagree.
     
  14. stucknutah

    stucknutah Member+

    Feb 14, 2002
    In the Office
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    As a RSL fan, I would. His offensive / final 1/3 abilities are still subpar at even the MLS level. Unless JK just wants a lock-down right back defender, Beltran is of no use to him.
     
  15. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Maybe Mix gets brought in with Cam out.

    Didn't Beltran have a secondary assist in the Mexico match?
     
  16. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    I expect a completely MLS-MX based lineup. Which would be close to the team in Brazil, actually.

    --------------------------Rimando---------------------------
    Yedlin--------Gonzalez--------Besler----------Beasley
    ------------------Bradley-----Jones------------------------
    Zusi--------------------Dempsey---------------Donovan
    ---------------------------Zardes----------------------------

    Bench: Hamid, SJ; Parkhurst, Orozco, Garza; Edu, Corona, Beckerman, Davis, Nguyen; Wondo, EJ.

    The end of an era.
     
  17. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    I watched nearly every minute Juan played in MLS that season, including at Chivas, and this just does not match up with what I saw.
     
  18. 21st Century Pele

    Apr 16, 2014
    I'd rather have a college kid who impressed at a pre-WC camp than some 17 year old who can't get playing time with a third division European club.
     
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  19. 21st Century Pele

    Apr 16, 2014
    Gomez Dempsey Wondo
    Davis Donovan Rasta
    Beasley Bocanegra Gooch Evans
    Howard
    Let's make it truly a farewell game! :D
     
  20. PANDEMONEUM

    PANDEMONEUM Member

    Aug 30, 2011
    Club:
    Asteras Tripolis
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    all the names listed in this thread :

    i tried to rank/order them, but idk half of them

    GK:
    Nick Rimando, Sean Johnson, Bill Hamid, Clint Irwin

    RB:
    DeAndre Yedlin, Andrew Farrell

    CB:
    Matt Besler, Goeff Cameron, Omar Gonzalez, Orozco Fical, Michael Parkhurst,
    Maurice Edu, Amobi Okugo, Matt Hedges, Shane O'Neill, Nick Hagglund,
    Chris Schuler, Chad Marshall

    LB:
    Greg Garza, Robbie Rogers, Chris Klute, Tony Beltran

    CM:
    Michael Bradley, Jermaine Jones, Kyle Beckerman, Joe Corona,
    Perry Kitchen, Wil Trapp, Dillon Powers

    AM/Wing:
    Landon Donovan, Graham Zusi, Benny Feilhaber, Lee Nguyen, Luis Gil,
    Joe Corona, Paul Arriola, Dax McCarty, Edgar Castillo, Joe Gyau, Jose Torres
    Luis Silva, Harry Shipp, Dillon Serna, Tommy Thompson,

    CF:
    Clint Dempsey, Jozy Altidore, Eddie Johnson, Gyasi Zardes, Jack McInerney,
    Will Bruin, Andrew Wenger,
    Tesho Akindele, Justin Meram, Patrick Mullins
     
  21. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Tesho Akindele - my bad, he still needs to pass a citizenship test. Next year.
     
  22. bmo180

    bmo180 Member+

    Jan 25, 2012
    I'm not a big Wondo for USMNT fan, but whose to say the striker you think we should have brought over Wondo would have even been in that spot for the shot? Wondo's positioning is as good as anyone. I dont think he cost us the game, he just didn't take his chance to win it
     
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  23. PANDEMONEUM

    PANDEMONEUM Member

    Aug 30, 2011
    Club:
    Asteras Tripolis
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i really liked seeing all the youngs in the match vs the Czech Republic
    we had a few guys that knew what to expect in training
    and a bunch of guys 1st call ups
    id like to see the same thing

    lets eliminate all the Euro guys
    how to decide which players, from which MLS team, and how many from 1 team ?
    or, just select who you want and the clubs just deal with it ?

    this game vs Ecuador is on the 10th
    then the next vs Honduras is on the 14th

    MLS teams that have games :

    Wednesday October 8th
    Toronto vs Houston
    Portland vs San Jose

    Friday October 10th
    Sporting KC vs Chicago
    Seattle vs Vancouver

    Saturday October 11th
    Montreal vs New England
    Philadelphia vs Columbus
    New York vs Toronto
    Real Salt Lake vs San Jose
    Chivas USA vs Colorado

    Sunday October 12th
    Houston vs DC United
    FC Dallas vs LA Galaxy

    who i would like to see

    GK: (3)
    Nick Rimando, Bill Hamid, Clint Irwin

    RB: (2)
    DeAndre Yedlin, Andrew Farrell

    CB: (4)
    Matt Besler, Omar Gonzalez, Michael Parkhurst,
    Maurice Edu, Amobi Okugo, Matt Hedges, Shane O'Neill, Nick Hagglund,
    Chris Schuler, Chad Marshall

    LB: (2)
    Greg Garza, Robbie Rogers

    CM: (3)
    Michael Bradley, Jermaine Jones, Kyle Beckerman, Joe Corona,
    Perry Kitchen, Wil Trapp, Dillon Powers

    AM/Wing: (5)
    Landon Donovan, Graham Zusi, Benny Feilhaber, Lee Nguyen, Luis Gil,
    Paul Arriola, Dax McCarty, Joe Gyau,
    Luis Silva, Harry Shipp, Dillon Serna, Tommy Thompson,

    CF: (4)
    Clint Dempsey, Gyasi Zardes, Jack McInerney,
    Will Bruin,
    Andrew Wenger,
    Justin Meram, Patrick Mullins
     
  24. PANDEMONEUM

    PANDEMONEUM Member

    Aug 30, 2011
    Club:
    Asteras Tripolis
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ................ZARDES - DEMPSEY
    DONOVAN -- NGUYEN -- ZUSI
    .......................BRADLEY
    GARZA - BESLER - OMAR - YEDLIN
    .......................RIMANDO

    3 noobs in the starting lineup
    sub out Dono, Demps, Bradley, Zusi
     
  25. bmo180

    bmo180 Member+

    Jan 25, 2012
    All these MLS guys probably shouldn't be called in when they are battling for playoff spots..
     

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