U.s. Mnt Invited To 2004 Copa America

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by mifflin63, Apr 7, 2003.

  1. mifflin63

    mifflin63 New Member

    Sep 25, 2000
    In an interview on March 6th, 2003, with the President of the Copa America Organizing Comittee for Peru, the following was said:

    Question - Will there be invited teams? (referring to the 2004 Copa America tournament)

    Answer - Of course, We have confirmed the participation of Mexico and we are waiting for the confirmation from the U.S.

    Q -(¿En esta oportunidad tendremos invitados?)

    A -("Por supuesto. Tenemos confirmada la participación de México y esperamos la confirmación de Estados Unidos".)

    This was off the Peru.com web site.

    If this is true, then the Gold Cup will not decide who goes to the January 2004 Copa America from the CONCACAF.

    This tournament should have all the European-based players back for their respective South American Teams, which should make it an excellent tournament. January is an off month for European Leagues. Also, this would give the U.S.MNT an excellent opportunity to play their best team, European-based and MLS, a few months prior to starting qualification.

    I will be surprised if Bruce Arena does not jump at this opportunity. He turned it down 2 years ago, because, it was over the summer, and conflicted with the MLS Season.
     
  2. lond2345

    lond2345 Member

    Aug 19, 2002
    USA
    "I will be surprised if Bruce Arena does not jump at this opportunity. He turned it down 2 years ago, because, it was over the summer, and conflicted with the MLS Season."

    and because it was in colombia. We should defenitely go to it in 04!
     
  3. lasoccervegas2002

    Jul 7, 2002
    this planet
    will Argentina, colombia and Brazil be in this tournament beside Peru ? this looks like very level tourney.......
     
  4. wu-tang beez

    wu-tang beez New Member

    Apr 19, 2002
    Irving, TX
    [cartman voice]Sweet![/cartman voice]
     
  5. metroflip73

    metroflip73 Member

    Mar 3, 2000
    NYC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Our young players will learn about hostile environments at this tournament. Can't wait.
     
  6. JG

    JG Member+

    Jun 27, 1999
    We weren't invited in 2001 because we didn't win the Gold Cup.

    We declined in 1997 and maybe 1999.
     
  7. speedcake

    speedcake Member

    Dec 2, 1999
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dear lordy we had better accept if this is true! The second/third most prestigous international tourny on the planet. When might we hear something?
     
  8. Poachin_Goalz

    Poachin_Goalz Member

    Jun 17, 2002
    Athens, GA.
    This would be good experience for the early stages of WC06 qualifying. With the Confed Cup, Gold Cup, Olympics and Copa America under our belt, Bruce should have ample opportunity to test players. Our traditional commitment to the olympics may be the reason for the delay in our answer. Does anyone know how the time frames of these tournaments correspond yet.
     
  9. FutebolArte

    FutebolArte New Member

    Mar 9, 2003
    NYC
    I doubt this is true, IMO there's bad blod between Conmebol and USSF... I would be very surprise if they invite USNT even if the US win the Golden Cup

    But i would be very interested in see how a full strengh US would do at the Copa America

    As I posted many times before, US soccer should try to participate in Copa America and the Libertadores. This can only help soccer in this nation
     
  10. Ringo

    Ringo Member

    Jun 10, 2002
    Rough and Ready
    Club:
    Yeovil Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    just playing in concacaf (other than canada) takes care of that.
    this would be sweeeet .... my only concern is that being in south america there will be a total lack of tv coverage. here's hoping ESPN/FSW/somebody steps up. of course, it's too early to worry about that since the US hasn't even confirmed particiaption.
    so, I'll say it again .... sweeeet.
     
  11. eldiablito

    eldiablito New Member

    Jun 8, 2000
    in Sagy's shadow
    1. Copa America has been available on TV in the USA the last two times. (I know because I watched it--of course it was only on pay per view, just like Euro2000 I might add).

    2. Brazil and Argentina, to answer lasoccervegas2002's question, will play, just like every CONMEBOL nation (Peru, Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Brazil, Argentina, Bolivia, Paraguay, Uruguay, Chile).

    Argentina didn't play last time because of the political situation in host country Colombia. Gold Cup winners (Canada!!) dropped out for the same reason. Costa Rica and Honduras took their places.
     
  12. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    That blows that you have to pay to watch the Copa America since the last few additions have been shown by Univision/ Galavision.
     
  13. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    The Gold Cup only determined the other guest that wasn't Mexico. Now that the US went to semifinals combined with the fact that there may be an appreciable quantity of viewers I'm sure that the Gold Cup will mean nothing anymore.
     
  14. eldiablito

    eldiablito New Member

    Jun 8, 2000
    in Sagy's shadow
    Actually, that's a good point. Some of the games I didn't have to pay for because they were on Univision. The ones that were on Galavision I had to pay for (because that channel is not offered on my cable system, so they were only offered via pay per view). I know I had to pay to watch all of Ecuador's games and I didn't have to pay to watch any of Mexico's.
     
  15. EL MONO MARIO

    EL MONO MARIO Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    Montevideo, Uruguay
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Excellent! I really wanna see the USA in this tornament again... Can they match their 4th place finish like they did in Uruguay back in 1995??? We shall see.
     
  16. lond2345

    lond2345 Member

    Aug 19, 2002
    USA
    do you think univision would show u.s games? we know they will show the mexico games.
     
  17. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    Re: Re: U.s. Mnt Invited To 2004 Copa America

    Neither did Honduras or Costa Rica and they were invited.
     
  18. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    For the 20th time, the US can't play in the Libertadores. Mexico only plays because it bought the rights to play the Venezuelan teams for their spots and no other country is planning on selling theirs.
     
  19. sch2383

    sch2383 New Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    To echo everybody else: this is good news, I really hope we take advantage of this opportunity.
     
  20. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Re: Re: U.s. Mnt Invited To 2004 Copa America

    Only after Canada and Argentina pulled out. The US was never invited they might have been if either Costa Rica or Honduras had turned down the invitation.
     
  21. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    Re: Re: Re: Re: U.s. Mnt Invited To 2004 Copa America

    Yes I know. I think the US wasn't invited because of the fact they thought they would turn it down again.
     
  22. Martin Fischer

    Martin Fischer Member+

    Feb 23, 1999
    Kampala. Uganda
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is shockingly devoid of logic. The right of Mexico to buy a spot off Venezuela is not engraved in the Ten Commandments. For some reason, COMEBOL wanted Mexican clubs to participate in the Libradores Cup. So they came up with a semi-legal way to do it. If they wanted to change the rules to so benefit the US, they could come up with the same dodge or some other legal fiction.

    P.S. If you don't know why COMEBOL did this, let me help you: What's the largest Spanish-speaking television market in the world?
     
  23. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    No other Country is on the market to sell the rights for Libertadores. When Venezuela was thinking of not selling the rights anymore, Mexico found out no other team was going to either and they would have been screwed. Venezuela is the only one who sells them and Mexico got their first and I think would fight for it to be that way.
     
  24. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Originally posted by Martin Fischer

    This is shockingly devoid of logic. The right of Mexico to buy a spot off Venezuela is not engraved in the Ten Commandments. For some reason, COMEBOL wanted Mexican clubs to participate in the Libradores Cup. So they came up with a semi-legal way to do it. If they wanted to change the rules to so benefit the US, they could come up with the same dodge or some other legal fiction.

    COMNEBOL did NOT want Mexico participating in Copa Libertadores and at one point not even in Copa America. However since Televisa has become one of Copa Americas major players they had no choice but to make Mexico its "Permanent Guest"

    Copa Libertadores is a diffrent story because Torneos Y Competencias (TyC) which i believe is a Argie-Brazilian company has a firm hold on the Libertadores along with Toyota and even when they had to cut back on prize money they were still not willing to give the FMF two spots to CL.

    The only reason Mexican Clubs participate in Copa Libertadores is because a Mexican Sports promoter was clever enough to negotiate with the Venezuelan FA and get CONMEBOL the FMF and the TFC to approve. This is the reason why Mexican Clubs must play Pre pre Libertadores in the U.S.

    P.S. If you don't know why COMEBOL did this, let me help you: What's the largest Spanish-speaking television market in the world?

    That sounds nice but its not the case. Maybe when they give the MFL their own tickets but untill then..
     
  25. peledre

    peledre Member

    Mar 25, 2001
    Sioux Falls, SD
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If it's not already, it will be the US in a very short amount of time.
     

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