TT should go to England. My suggestion is not anti-German but only a reflection of the atmosphere in Germany for an American in daily life there. If Twellman were to go to an EPL team, he would NOT have to struggle with the language and significantly different culture. Take it from an American who lived in Belgium for seven years. The atmosphere in English-speaking Britain is much nicer to live and work in.
If Twellman were go to to an EPL team he might not have to struggle with the language and culture shock but with riding the bench. No doubt he has proven he can score in MLS and it's a shame he didn't get a significan chance w/ his German club but catching on w/ an EPL team is much hard than is sounds lest more American players probably would be playing in England.
Stern John led MLS in scoring. He's latched on with . . . Birmingham. I.e. He's in the EPL because of promotion primarily. He clearly has EPL talent, but it is tough to break through. Twellman has more upside than John, but I think it would still be hard to nose his way up to the table immediately.
I thought I heard that he had some sort of European parentage that allowed him to get a Euro passport. I could quite possibly be mistaken though.
You know, football is an incredibly cosmopolitan sport. Brazillians play in Spain, England and Germany (and Japan, by the way) in spades, and Brazil is much more different from any of these than the U.S. is from Germany. Of course, there is the occassional homesick story from a south american, but for the most part, well paid footballers with a chance to play in the great leagues get over the differences real fast. Just because you might have trouble adjusting to a culture different from your own doesn't mean others would have the same problem. I can guarantee you that you wouldn't see a post like this from any other than an American soccer fan. Only one of our insulated fellow citizens could fail to see the amalgam of languages spoken and cultures on any starting 11 in Europe.
Re: Re: Twellman to elsewhere Ahh, Metro, so nice to be able to agree wtih you once in a while. God forbid Twellman play for Arsenal, he'd have to learn French. If Jovan can muddle through in Portugal and Reyna can figure out Glaswegian, then Twellman, who has already stumbled through a season in Munich could do it again if he wanted. The list of Americans who have not had major difficulties adjusting to Germany is as long (if not longer) than the list of Ams happily ply their trade in the British Isles.
Taylor needs one more year of MLS. He can also train with the national team for the upcoming tourney's in 2003. He is comfortable in MLS and he will play for sure. In England or Germany nothing is for sure. Unless you are a superstar, you will ride the bench in favor of a local boy or a Brazilian.
Twellman should stay in MLS at least one more year. This is his first year of playing first team soccer why not let him get another and pick up a few things before we ship him off to some European land. Let him learn what its like to go against defenses that have seen him play a few times and know his strengths and weaknesses.
Twellman had opportunities to go to FC Utrecht before the U20's WC. He chose not to pursue that option and went to Maryland. They were still interested when he signed with 1860. FC Midjuytyland of Denmark (Spelling in Danish isn't my forte') but he also chose 1860. If he went to FC U, well I doubt they could pay him enought to get him that work permit. Denmark - that would fly in a heartbeat.
from how taylor has talked, yeah he had to prove himself and yeah he wouldn't have gotten into the starting line up this year... but i don't think he had any real problems with it, he saw it as that's how it was... 9/11 came around and he re-thought things through... personally, i would like for him to go, because i simply don't see him doing as well next year... and i think that might hurt his value... maybe not, especially if he wouldn't get injured and stay close to this year's numbers -jim
Taylor TT would love to go to England or back to Germany. Frankly, if MLS restructures his contract to pay him what he is worth (oh..say the league MAX)..he's love to stay in New England. Its kinda out of his hands right now. The league holds all the cards since they have his contract for 3 more years. They have already turned down VERY lucrative inquiries. On a related note, 4 European scouts will be at the Revs v Metros tonight looking at him, including (supposedly) Liverpool.
You know, I dont see any particular reason for a Yank to rush abroad. Its too easy for clubs to dismiss an american after any rocky stretch largely because of nationality. Which is not to say that they dont give americans a chance, I just dont think they ever get second chances or even an equal first one. I kind of use Kirovski as a barometer (yes Kirovski). I think hes a guy who provided the right situation can do some very nice things. The problem is for the most part he needs the right situation, which I dont think there are many opportunities for. I think most americans that go abroad frequently fail for one reason or another, and have a hard time getting that second look. So if the right situation opens up for TT, then let him go for it. But the big thing about having MLS is that the people there are going to be far more committed to finding an American player a place where they can succeed than any European club would.
why do you guys want to get rid of Twellman so quickly? he is one of the stars of mls, he should stay in mls.
Re: Taylor Let us hope for TT's sake that MLS doesn't pull another McBride and slap an unrealistic transfer for TT's services outside of MLS. I also hope some of the younger players who have shown potential to move from MLS learn from the TT and McBride example's and sign contracts with MLS of no more than two seasons.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Taylor The whole idea behind moving players abroad, is it opens up spaces for more talent, if you have all the same players in the league year after year, it doesn't give up and comers much of a shot to come up and develop. Look at the sides that have done well internationally in the last 10 years or so, they exports TONS of talent (see brazil, france, italy, argentina etc).
I agree. Let's move some young talent abroad, and let new young guys come in and take their places. River Plate sold two strikers, brings in an 18 year old striker who then leads the league in scoring. When we can afford to pay the players better from top to bottom, then we can bring them back and keep them. Use the money from sales of players to build stadiums!
I don't want out league to become the ticket to Europe and have players come in thinking, "I'll just try to play real well here and then run over to Europe." We want players to enjoy playing for their club and not want to cross the pond at the first opportunity. Although, if shipping a few players off helps with stadiums . . . . . But I still don't want our league to become like that of Argentina.
Then MLS needs to pay its players better. But they can't because they simply don't have the revenue. The problem is all down to the absent American fans who don't support MLS.
What if the player wants to sign with MLS for 2 years out of HS or college, then wants to bolt? Can't do much there can we? Our league will become closer to what Argentina is because there ain't serious ducketts here in MLS. Bottom line.
we have the players to be found, so if a deal comes and they want to go, let them the league gets money, pays someone else less than what the guy who just left would have cost and others will pick up where that guy left off nothing wrong with that whatsoever... that's exactly what twellman and ruiz did this year, why can't we do that again???? let our people go, we will find quality replacements