Twellman: "The Revs ignored my concussions"

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  1. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
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    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting AP story out today.

    There's been a lot of talk here about the trainers here, with all the injuries we've had. This can't help.
     
  2. cml1394

    cml1394 Member

    Apr 5, 2010
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They're still doing this, too. Fagundez got a concussion in that collision against Columbus, and even though the game was completely meaningless they just sent him back out there. Another head collision after he went back in would have done SERIOUS damage.
     
  3. CottageRev

    CottageRev Member+

    Jun 13, 2010
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    On the other "still doing this" front, it took them over a month to figure out Perovic had a torn ACL/MCL and not just a "knee sprain" (initially reported by Kyle McCarthy as "not that serious" - NFL training staff find that stuff out in 2/3 days, max.

    Just bizarre levels of incompetence all around.
     
  4. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
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    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    I'm sure we'll be told we're just complaining though.
     
  5. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How common is this sort of 'undiagnosed serious injury' in the rest of the League? In the rest of soccer?

    Are we really that far behind the curve?
     
  6. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ask John O'Broken how the Dutch do it...
     
  7. SeñorFutbol

    SeñorFutbol Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    I blame the turf.....for everything.

    Clearly it's Belichik's fault not Nicol's. Ask Ted Johnson.

    Wonder if the training staff works for both Football and Soccer? There would probably be 2 different mentalities regarding each sport in regards to injuries.
    Meaning would a trainer from with most experience in American football recognize the impact of a specific injury for soccer?
     
  8. rkane1226

    rkane1226 Member+

    Apr 9, 2000
    Club:
    Stade Brestois 29
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did you check with the people who know what should or should not be believed? Some how I bet this is a "don't believe"
     
  9. Mike Marshall

    Mike Marshall Member+

    Feb 16, 2000
    Woburn, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I couldn't believe it when I saw that. The kid's 16 - get him out of the game when he hits his head so hard that he can't get up for a couple of minutes.
     
  10. NE till i die

    NE till i die Member+

    Jun 26, 2010
    Stoughton, MA
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    Who wants to start the Fire Sean Kupiec thread?
     
  11. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is Sean Kupiec a bust?
     
  12. eric_appleby

    eric_appleby Member+

    Jun 11, 1999
    Down East
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What happened with Twellman is a disgrace.
    But now with 16 year old Fagundez? Almost criminally negligent.
     
  13. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yeah i just read the ESPN article, that is tragic. Twellman was a hell of a player for the league and he'd probably still be tearing it up right now if it wasnt for his concussions; he had this leagues number. I always wished nothing but the best for Twellman, and as a San Jose fan i love that Wondolowski has been able to mirror him so much in style. That is pretty damning of what happened to him though, just my two cents, especially with Fagundez's case showing theyve learned nothing.
     
  14. dncm

    dncm Member+

    Apr 22, 2003
    Boston
    Just the type of press I am sure the Revs and Krafts were hoping to see...

    when it rains...
     
  15. saabrian

    saabrian Member

    Mar 25, 2002
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah but you can't really complain about the rain when you keep seeding the clouds.
     
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  16. Soccer Doc

    Soccer Doc Member+

    Nov 30, 2001
    Keene, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Amazing that none of the usual "Rev franchise bashers" have passed on what Twellmen has been Tweeting about how his statements are being misread.:rolleyes:

    Twellman is NOT casting any negative aspersions on the Revs. His story is about the way Concussions have been handled by all professional sports and how it's management has been less than ideal. He's making a commitment to changing the way players with concussions and PCS are treated. He makes it clear that the Revs were completely supportive, always followed medical advise (his doctors not the team trainer) and the Rev organization have no blame in how his PCS played out.

    The Rev franchise has a lot they can be faulted on but this isn't one of them.
     
  17. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
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    New England Revolution
    It's fair to say that this is one of the worst organizations in professional sports.
     
  18. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
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    New England Revolution
    why not?
     
  19. Soc4Us

    Soc4Us Member

    Jun 11, 2004
    Dunstable, MA
    Dell Apa article today on the topic where TnT was more conciliatory: http://www.boston.com/sports/soccer...evolution_did_not_ignore_concussion_symptoms/

    I remember the game where he got hit by the keeper but I can't remember whether I saw any symptoms immediately after where I thought there might be an issue.

    I very much remember when Diego sustained his concussion thinking that he likely had a concussion and wondering why the Revs left him in. After some play where he did not look particularly solid, it must have been more obvious to the Revs.

    I'm neutral on whether the Revs should have immediately gotten TnT out after the collision; also who knows if it would have made a difference. But not so with Diego. They must improve on this. I think coaches/medical staff at all levels are just catching up on how serious to take any initial jarring of the head.
     
  20. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
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    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Must spread rep :D
     
  21. Revs In First :)

    Aug 15, 2001
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I remember the game very well, and I remember Taylor scoring, running to the sideline to celebrate and then turning around to Shalrie, pointing at his head and you can clearly see him say "I got a concussion." In fact, here is a link to youtube highlights of the game and you can see all of that happen at around the 1:00 mark.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYUStc4d4ls&feature=related"]08/30/08 Los Angeles Galaxy vs. New England Revolution - YouTube[/ame]

    I think it is understandable why people around here were so ready to jump on the story, and I think it is commendable that Taylor hopped on Twitter to clarify. Head injuries are finally starting to be taken more seriously. I (vaguely) remember being put back into a club game with a concussion when I was 18 and it was only when I started asking my teammates who they were and said I couldn't see that I was taken out for good. It is a shame that guys like TnT and Marc Savard - and God knows how many others at every level in sports - had to suffer so much before we started taking them more seriously. I hope all this stuff I'm reading about Diego is wrong. It is better to be overly cautious with a minor head injury than to be reckless and risk someone's future.
     
  22. gmboy95

    gmboy95 Member

    Jan 11, 2007
    Norton, Ma.
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    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the concussion dirty little secret in professional sports involves all professional sports, when checks for "team" doctors are signed by the team, then it will continue to be a problem. All professional sports need to have federal regulations that make doctors completely independent from the teams, and these doctors make the determination if a player plays or practices, without any involvement from the team or its trainers!
     
  23. Soc4Us

    Soc4Us Member

    Jun 11, 2004
    Dunstable, MA
    Thank you for providing the link to the video. I had forgotten that he was down for a while. Scariest part of the video for me was at 2 minutes when he went down again. And the video shows he played until at least the 75th minute which is more than 50 minutes after the collision. Crap.
     
  24. RevsFanDan

    RevsFanDan Member

    May 24, 2005
    North Shore
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I love how Twellman is defending the Revs!! I laughed at that...
     
  25. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You would think that after the whole thing with losing the best player the franchise ever had, and how basically everything went completely to hell until they realized he wasn't coming back, you would think that they would be even more sensitive to that when it happened to Fagundez. You know, that 16-year-old kid who is the future of the franchise, the guy who is pretty small and who has been only gradually integrated into the first team in fear that some giant thug of a defender might take him out. Yeah, that guy.

    If anything, they should err on the side of caution. Even the harshest critic wouldn't have had a problem if they took him out as a matter of prudence. Especially in light of what happened to Twellman, you'd think this.

    Then again, maybe not... :mad:
     

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