Trump vs. Clinton: The General Election Thread

Discussion in 'Elections' started by JohnR, May 4, 2016.

  1. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    Ah, the new Dems. If they're not loving war, they're loving Wall Street.
     
  2. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Yes! That's exactly what I'm saying! Gosh you're so smart!
     
  3. NGV

    NGV Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    I agree, with one caveat. If Jeb or (especially) if Rubio had been the nominee, we'd likely be seeing some entirely different stuff from Wikileaks.
     
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  4. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    OK, being serious, this is what seems to be going on -

    1) The world thinks Donald Trump is a flipping disaster. Well except Russia, but Russia isn't a first-world investment country, so nobody cares what Russia thinks.

    2) So the global markets are affected by the Presidential election. It's not so much that the markets love Hillary as it is that they loathe Donald Trump.

    3) If the global markets wag their tails, so does the U.S. stock market. This is a global effect.

    So no, it's not really that Wall Street loves those Dems.
     
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  5. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

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    The other issue is that no one really knows what a Trump presidency looks like. The contours of a Clinton presidency are a lot easier to predict. Investors HATE volatility.
     
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  6. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

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    As I said elsewhere: authoritarian trappings with a big heaping dose of kleptocracy. Which I'm not sure appeals to the forces that drive global markets.

    Of course, where JohnR says "global markets," certain Trump supporters say "Jews."
     
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  7. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Until now, I hadn't put 2+2 together and realized that the right's George Soros fetish is an Elders of Zion thing.

    By the way, anybody who brings up George Soros in seriousness lives in Conspiracyland. George Soros has no political influence. Politicians like his money, and they will attend his events if he puts together a good agenda, but they politely think he's loopy. They don't listen to his suggestions at all.
     
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  8. raza_rebel

    raza_rebel Member+

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    Seriously? I have seen this a few times and the first time I saw his name, I had the same reaction when I saw Saul Alinksy's name; who is this guy?
     
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  9. chaski

    chaski Moderator
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    My college roomate read a book by Saul Alinsky (0r maybe about Alinsky, can't remember which) for a Politics class. I never heard of him again until the 2008 election, when the Reps made it sound like being a secret follower of Alinsky was even worse than being a Muslim.
     
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  10. argentine soccer fan

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    It's mutual.
     
  11. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    +1

    Same as how the markets hate Brexit
     
  12. Belgian guy

    Belgian guy Member+

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  13. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    The trouble is they can't adapt thanks to the Conservo-hate media & Trumpism
     
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  14. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

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    Anti-Zionism is an establishment message in Iran. Not anti-semitism.

    In any case, you might find this piece and the 2 videos posted in the Jewish Press website eye opening. The 2nd video are comments by an Iranian professor debating a conservative MP at an Iranian university with regard to Iran's posture towards Israel.

    http://www.jewishpress.com/multimed...step-on-israeli-or-american-flags/2016/11/06/
    Iranian Professor Refuses to Step on Israeli or American Flags

    By: Video of the Day
    Published:
    November 6th, 2016
     
  15. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    795797537257099265 is not a valid tweet id
     
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  16. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Jul 2, 2003
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    That's nice.
     
  17. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Jul 2, 2003
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    It's not a lie. But if you want to lie to yourself, go ahead. I'm sure it makes you sleep well at night, fawning over someone who is so morally and ethically bankrupt.
     
  18. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Jul 2, 2003
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    Maybe I'm not a sucker like you. And I know you love to think that people who think HRC is a morally and ethically bankrupt human are automatically voting for Trump, but it doesn't work that way. It's not that kind of movie, Bruv.

    My wish is that the Trump and Clinton campaign jets collide in midair and save us all from this abomination of an election, but that ain't gonna happen.
     
  19. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    I don't agree these kinds of operations should be allowed

    But unfortunately numerous people run them without going to jail.
     
  20. The Jitty Slitter

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  21. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    I just read a article wringing its hands at the discourse of this year's campaign, assiduously avoiding blaming one side more than the other.

    Are you ********ing kidding me?
     
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  22. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    The important thing is that we have to figure out what has the white working class so aggrieved.
     
  23. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Economic anxiety and email server protocol!
     
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  24. RaMaaa

    RaMaaa Member+

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    i'm waiting for Trump's list who is to blame after the defeat.
     
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  25. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

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    Opinions like this are exactly why I voted Johnson this morning.
     
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