Trump Presidency X-like American History X, but without the laughs

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  1. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

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    Yep. but ceezmad was comparing Netanyahu and Pence wondering why one might be shunnable.
     
  2. ceezmad

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    Personally I think both are shunnable.
     
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  3. song219

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    Speaking of Pence, has there ever been a Vice President who has had less known about their spouse? Has she been imprisoned on the Naval Observatory grounds?
     
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  4. ToMhIlL

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    Didn't she get a job as an art teacher at some Fundy school where they believe the Flintstones was a historical documentary and Conversion Therapy is a legit way to "pray away teh ghey"?
     
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  5. song219

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    I'm surprised that the administration hasn't forced the Smithsonian museums to give equal time to creationists with displays showing men riding dinosaurs.
    Well maybe 2nd term.
     
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  6. superdave

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    Utah just outlawed this.
     
  7. fatbastard

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    They're kind of the same. Pence is first in line for the presidency and Chuck is first in line for the Kingdom :)

    Hopefully they'll both be skipped over.
     
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  8. ToMhIlL

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    Yep, I read that the other day. But a lot of people still believe in it, and all it does is mess people up big-time. From Mrs. Pence's perspective, if prayer doesn't seem to be giving you the results you want, then it just must be "The Lord's Will."
     
  9. song219

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    Yet from these people's perspective it can't be The Lord's Will that someone is gay.
     
  10. ToMhIlL

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    Logic will make your head explode sometimes. But only if it's The Lord's Will.
     
  11. superdave

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    I just wanted to give Utah props for being cool.

    Not as cool as those condom wrappers, but pretty cool.
     
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  12. Yoshou

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    Families of politicians have traditionally been offlimits to the DC Press corp unless the family member insert themselves into the news and/or takes an active role in their spouse's activities. Since Mrs. Pence hasn't done that, you aren't going to see much about her...
     
  13. song219

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    Trump is speaking at the Right to Life march today. Trump could boast at the march about how many abortions he's paid for and his supporters there would mumble about God exerting his will through imperfect men.
     
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  14. usscouse

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    It's really hard to get a photo of her these days.

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  15. dapip

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    So Don Corleone wanted to take Masha out? And he wanted that to be done by the man he doesn't know?

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rec...e-dinner-ukraine-ambassador/story?id=68506437

    The recording appears to contradict statements by President Trump and support the narrative that has been offered by Parnas during broadcast interviews in recent days. Sources familiar with the recording said the recording was made during an intimate April 30, 2018, dinner at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C.


    Trump has said repeatedly he does not know Parnas, a Soviet-born American who has emerged as a wild card in Trump’s impeachment trial, especially in the days since Trump was impeached.

    "Get rid of her!" is what the voice that appears to be President Trump’s is heard saying. "Get her out tomorrow. I don't care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. Okay? Do it."
     
  16. ceezmad

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    Ok, maybe for those that work in the government, is there a long process for a president to fire someone he does not like in the department of state?

    The conversation above happened in 2018, but the Firing did not happen until a year later, could it be that there was some management between the president and the Ambassador that stopped Trump from firing her earlier?
     
  17. superdave

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    Why did the US start getting more corrupt in 2017?

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  18. ceezmad

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    It looks like it started in 2015, with a small up blip in 2017 and has continued to go down since then.

    What happened in 2015?
     
  19. Yoshou

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    I think you mean 2016. 2015 was a high point.
     
  20. ceezmad

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    Yeah, I guess it may depend if is the end of the year or the begging, but yes, it was going up, then it decreased, it corrected it self a little and then continued to go down.

    But then it would read like in 2017 corruption improved, then 2018 and 2019 were down years, It would be hard to believe corruption got better in 2017, but who knows.
     
  21. usscouse

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    The corruption has been going on a lot longer than people think. Each successive republican dominated era brought more and more as they got away with it.

    This is a really good read. Bill Barr's corruption through the repugnant years. How he kept H Bush and his cabal out of jail.
    The amazing thing is how he gets and is still getting away with it. It's a long read but well worth the time.


    Lev Parnas recently told Rachel Maddow that he’s more afraid of Attorney General Bill Barr than he is of the mobbed-up foreign oligarchs he has betrayed. Barr, after all, can weaponize our prisons to punish Parnas.

    “Am I scared?” he said. “Yes, because I think I’m more scared of our own Justice Department than these criminals right now.”

    An attorney general willing to bend or even break the law—and certainly willing to conceal crimes and lie to the American people—can be a corrupt president’s last line of defense.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/lev-parnas-is-afraid-of-bill-barr-and-he-should-be/
     
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  22. Yoshou

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    Allegedly in retaliation for this weekend's event, the Pompeo's handlers kicked an NPR reporter off his airplane that was preparing to leave on a trip that includes a stop in Ukraine.



    This apparently hurts more than NPR since the NPR reporter was also the rotational pool reporter for radio.
     
  23. ChrisSSBB

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    Maybe not criminal but something along those lines. These guys act like they are CEO’s and not public servants.
     
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  24. song219

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    But we want a government that’s run like a business.;)
     
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  25. JohnR

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    Which means in most cases a step down. I'd rather deal with the IRS or get a drivers license than deal with most corporate call centers. (Amazon being a blissful exception. As semi-monopolies go, it's very responsive.)
     
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