Tribute to the Greatest Asian Playmaker of all Time - Ali Karimi

Discussion in 'Asian Football Confederation' started by PersianGulf, Oct 15, 2008.

  1. Sayf

    Sayf Member

    Jul 25, 2008
    Club:
    Al Hilal Riyadh
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I meant during his time he was the best; I didn't mean the best winger ever. I also didn't mean to compare him to Karimi. I think they're both massively talented players. BTW Karimi's case highlights how overstated the "Europe" factor can be, because Karimi's career in Europe was not very impressive, but you still consider him the best playmaker ever.

    I love Sami Al-Jabir to death, but on what basis is he better than Yousef Al-Thuniyyan? Sami is just better known in the international media because he appeared in a lot of WC's and played in England for a few months, but that doesn't make him better than Yousef. Sami Al-Jaber and Saeed Al-Owairan are the most famous Saudi players internationally, but no Saudi considers either of them the best ever (well maybe a minority would say Sami).

    The big debate in Saudi is usually between Majed and Yousef, but I think Majed was massively overrated. Yassir Al-Qahtani is much more gifted technically than Majed and he has already equaled Majed's scoring rate with the national team (80%) even though Yassir plays against more sophisticated opposition.
     
  2. CutePuppy

    CutePuppy Red Card

    Nov 14, 2006
    Very educational thread indeed but who is ali karimi?
     
  3. Iaco

    Iaco Member

    Apr 1, 2006
    Melbourne
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    An Iranian player who didn't make it in Europe.
     
  4. Wezza

    Wezza Member

    Sep 17, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
  5. PinoyMarauder

    PinoyMarauder Member

    Apr 10, 2008
    Philippines/Canada
    lol, im sure the iranians would respond.
     
  6. PersianGulf

    PersianGulf Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    Iran
    shut up and do some reading fool.... If I wanna compare Iranian players to Australians who are in Europe I would compare them to player like Hashemian and Mahdavikia who have been in Germany for god knows how long... Karimi chose to leave Europe he had tons of offers but Arab clubs offer easy football plus lots of money.
     
  7. PinoyMarauder

    PinoyMarauder Member

    Apr 10, 2008
    Philippines/Canada
    And that proved his lack of determination.

    this thread should definitly be closed.
     
  8. Bonizzoni

    Bonizzoni Member

    May 4, 2004
    São Paulo - Brasil
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    Nat'l Team:
    Turkmenistan
    Totally agreed.
    The point about Karimi is about his skills and how he made in Bayern.I would be stupid to say that Karimi is a bad player,he's one of my favourites,but I think Yousef is better.But since Yousef didn't appeared in Europe,people put Al Jaber ahead him...and being realistic,Sami was a very good player,but Yousef is miles away in terms of skill,is visible.
    I would put Yousef between 50+ in history...difficult to find someone who won many important tournaments playing like that.
     
  9. RickChelsea

    RickChelsea Member

    Sep 28, 2008
    sidknee
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mozambique
    Lol? 2 players playing in JUST the Bundesliga? We have had thousands of players playing in Europe and we have 100's in Europe right now as we speak
     
  10. PinoyMarauder

    PinoyMarauder Member

    Apr 10, 2008
    Philippines/Canada
    Rick, dont bother anymore they are hard headed.
     
  11. PersianGulf

    PersianGulf Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    Iran
    we currently have 5 THAT ARE PLAYING FOR OUR NT... Teymourian premier league, nekounam la liga, shojaei la liga , mahadavikia bundesliga, hashemian bundesliga. we have tons mre Iranians playing in sweden n germany even france. but they are not in our nt roster like ashkan dejagah, amir shapurzadeh. shapoorzadeh didn't even get invited because our local clubs are better. how many of your hundreds of player are on ur NT?
    and let me make this loud and clear
    this thread clearly states best asian playermaker of all time your mike whatever his name is a striker and does not have the dribbling ability of karimi so pls stfu and stop bragging about australia
    thanx.
     
  12. scotch17

    scotch17 Member

    Jun 15, 2008
    Entebbe
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
  13. PinoyMarauder

    PinoyMarauder Member

    Apr 10, 2008
    Philippines/Canada
    lol...good one dude...

    SHUNSUKE NAKAMURA!!
     
  14. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    karimi vs nakamura:

    [YOUTUBE]bxI4Dgeb2Rs[/YOUTUBE]
     
  15. PinoyMarauder

    PinoyMarauder Member

    Apr 10, 2008
    Philippines/Canada
    This was going to come.......hehe karimi is talented, but where is he now?
     
  16. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    he still got it.:D

    [YOUTUBE]NEPDMqBuqaA[/YOUTUBE]
     
  17. PinoyMarauder

    PinoyMarauder Member

    Apr 10, 2008
    Philippines/Canada
    His team lost twice in a row already...
     
  18. scotch17

    scotch17 Member

    Jun 15, 2008
    Entebbe
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
  19. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    yea it also left out karimis hatrick against south korea, his champions league goal with bayern, some other amazing dribbling with bayern, and his rapage of the UAE defense in the 2001 ACQs. but other than that it had pretty much everything (other than all his UAE and IPL games).

    watch these goals and assists and dribbles and passes and tell me how karimi did not make it in europe:

    [YOUTUBE]svsS_W0781c[/YOUTUBE]
    [YOUTUBE]RP3U4kgj3KA[/YOUTUBE]
    [YOUTUBE]0Jz8iq2VlLM[/YOUTUBE]
     
  20. scotch17

    scotch17 Member

    Jun 15, 2008
    Entebbe
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Well... if we're talking about Champions League games... do I really need to go there? :cool:
    I mentioned those 2 goals cuz they were truly stunning, showed some real class that, in both cases, defined Celtics' winning seasons.

    edit: just to be clear, I never said he didn't make it. Karimis a great player that will be talked about for years in AFC, but he's not the only one.
     
  21. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    yea i didnt mean you lol. i meant those who said he failed in europe... he had a pretty good first season and a huge injury ruined his second and he was just not motivated to stay in germany and train hard again.
     
  22. Iaco

    Iaco Member

    Apr 1, 2006
    Melbourne
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    I think he knew he couldn't cut it with the best at Bayern and took the easy option, obviously his injury played a part in that also.
     
  23. mirage861

    mirage861 New Member

    Jun 7, 2008
    Hi I'm an ozzi bloke who has limited knowledge on Asian players. I don't know who Asia's best play maker of all time is. Heck I don't even know who the best Australian play maker of all time is. But for me, for a player to be even considered best the first prerequisite would be the will to strive for excellence and improvement.

    The fact that Karimi chose cash over the chance to prove himself, automatically disqaulified him from the honour of being named 'the best'. I'm not saying he isn't talented, I'm not saying he doesn't deserve recognition. He simply doesn't conform to the values of how 'the best' players should act and think.
     
  24. GoonerDoz

    GoonerDoz Member

    Aug 1, 2008
    Sydney - Bangkok
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
  25. Sahand

    Sahand New Member

    Jul 6, 2006
    This thread brings a smile to my face, as GOLTV is featuring this week's LIVING LEGEND is dedicated to Karimi and Kewell. It's on at 8AM EST on Saturday
     

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