Tribute to the Greatest Asian Playmaker of all Time - Ali Karimi

Discussion in 'Asian Football Confederation' started by PersianGulf, Oct 15, 2008.

  1. RickChelsea

    RickChelsea Member

    Sep 28, 2008
    sidknee
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mozambique
    Excuse me?
    Giggs is a 2 time Champions League winning player and has won over 15 other trophies with United

    Shot in the foot again:)
     
  2. RickChelsea

    RickChelsea Member

    Sep 28, 2008
    sidknee
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mozambique
    I told you to look up the meaning of skillful. It can;t be forcing my opinion as if you actually looked it up it might be beneficial for you. You still continue to think Karimi was this amazing player with SkIlLZZZZ and other rubbish yet he has never won anything in his whole life, was a benchy for Bayern and has never done any significant to even be well known on the same scale as Kewell

    Next :)
     
  3. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    you wish you were shot in the foot...LOL!
     
  4. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    dont tell me to look up the meaning of skillful when you are the one that said having a trophy in a room means you are more skillful than a player that can do everything better than you with a ball.

    oh and usually when you want to move on to the next level, you have to beat the current competition. in your case you should move BACK so you can do so. LOL!
     
  5. RickChelsea

    RickChelsea Member

    Sep 28, 2008
    sidknee
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mozambique
    Karimi has not won anything SIGNIFICANT(Iranian League doesn't not count) with both club AND NT

    that's the difference

    so you shotgunned yourself in the foot....again:)
     
  6. RickChelsea

    RickChelsea Member

    Sep 28, 2008
    sidknee
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mozambique
    :confused:What?
     
  7. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    last time i checked sawkurr was an 11 man sport and unluckiness and corruption affecting trophy getting.

    the difference is if you put karimi vs kewell 1 on 1 karimi would rape kewell in every aspect except shooting.
     
  8. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    ...
     
  9. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    then i must have bulletproof boots on because it still managed to find a way into your ass after all those shots.
     
  10. RickChelsea

    RickChelsea Member

    Sep 28, 2008
    sidknee
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mozambique
    You're about as funny as a stick.
     
  11. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    never knew sticks were of humorous nature in australia. guess you learn something new every day.
     
  12. Iaco

    Iaco Member

    Apr 1, 2006
    Melbourne
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Stop arguing with him PF.

    Kewell is the better player overall and has achieved alot more then Karimi.

    He's probably just as skillful as him to and at 30 when Karimi is making easy money playing in Iran Kewell is dominating in Europe.

    Kewell is Asia's greatest player to date.
     
  13. PersianGulf

    PersianGulf Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    Iran
    ARE YOU KIDDING ME? LOOL so you don't know Karimi at all he's a great defender as well if you can find bayern munich vs Ac Milan you can see what he did to them so are his crosses. go read up on karimi b4 you talk fool.
     
  14. Sayf

    Sayf Member

    Jul 25, 2008
    Club:
    Al Hilal Riyadh
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Eh, most Saudis recognize Saeed as a one-hit wonder anyway. In my personal opinion, our best World Cup goal was this one in the round of 16 against Sweden by Fahad Al-Ghesheyan (the first Saudi player to play in Europe):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMsGcL89d28&feature=related

    He could have become one of the all time greats if it wasn't for his unprofessional attitude. In an U-21 World Cup match against Brazil (which ended 0-0) he won the Man of the Match award. He retired before he reached the age of 30.

    Fahad Al-Ghesheyan in one of the derby matches (for some pretty neat dribbling):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKVeTLGWyvg&feature=related
     
  15. RickChelsea

    RickChelsea Member

    Sep 28, 2008
    sidknee
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mozambique
    More Iranians basing this player on ONE game.
     
  16. Bonizzoni

    Bonizzoni Member

    May 4, 2004
    São Paulo - Brasil
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    Nat'l Team:
    Turkmenistan
    Better say Karimi is Iranian Yousef.

    I know Karimi is a fantastic dribbler,but Thanian made more beautiful moves than Robinho,Ronaldinho or even Pelé.I'm not saying he was better,but that he was better "plastically" saying.

    And many brazilians here who saw this video agree with me.

    Difficult to find someone who makes this type of things.
     
  17. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    he is the better player overall in which a huge factor of that is achieving a lot more. but karimi is clearly more skillful.
     
  18. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    brazilians like yourself?:rolleyes:
     
  19. Sayf

    Sayf Member

    Jul 25, 2008
    Club:
    Al Hilal Riyadh
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Not only that, but as far as Asian football is concerned, he won basically everything there is to win.

    Asian Cups:
    Winner in 1988 he was Saudi's best player, and only missed out on the tournament MVP award because he missed the first game according to Vellapan or whatever his name was. He set up the winning goal against Iran in the semis.
    Winner 1996 he rescued KSA from a humiliating defeat against China in the 1/4 finals ... we were losing 2-0, he came on in the first half as a sub and completely changed the game, and Saudi won by 4 goals, of which he scored two.
    Runner up in 1992 where he was also a star.

    2 Asian Champions Cups: 1992, he was easily the best player. He scored the winner against Esteghlal in the group stages from a free kick next to the corner flag. Then in the final against Esteghlal he did it again :D. In 2000, Al-Hilal was losing to Jubilo and when he came on, Hilal finally started playing with brains and created chances until the equalizer came and Hilal won the Cup.

    1 Asian Cup Winners Cup: he and Sami demolished Arsene Wenger's Nagoya in the final.

    2 Arab Champions League: In 1995, he was the MVP in the final against Esperance Tunis, who were the strongest team in North Africa at the time, and he scored the winning goal.

    He has won all kinds of domestic titles of course -- more than any other Saudi player. He started out as a winger and was the best winger in Asia bar none, then reinvented himself in the 90's as a midfield playmaker and excelled again. He had it all: phenomenal, almost effortless dribbling, great technique, flair, creative passing, leadership. He was a phenomenal free-kick taker as well and scored lots of goals consistently even though he wasn't a striker. Just type in يوسف الثنيان on youtube and see for yourself.

    Yousef's problem was that he never got along with the Saudi officials. They never promoted him like Majed Abdullah, and they banned him from the 1994 World Cup because he didn't suck up to them. He was from an older generation, so when he was young it was rare for Asian players to attract attention and play abroad, so he never gained the profile of Sami Al-Jaber. That's why he's virtually unknown outside the Gulf, even though I think he's a serious contender for Asia's best ever.
     
  20. Iaco

    Iaco Member

    Apr 1, 2006
    Melbourne
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Being skillful doesn't mean your good though.
     
  21. scotch17

    scotch17 Member

    Jun 15, 2008
    Entebbe
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    True. I know tons of blokes where I'd turn to a mate and remark "wow, this guy is really skillful... it's a shame he sucks."
     
  22. PersianGulf

    PersianGulf Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    Iran
    its not one game i'm giving you a champions league match example even vs Portugal and Mexico his tackling was amazing... you saw how he took down ronaldo? he's always been a great tackler , defender and dribbler even his headers are amazing and basing this on over 45-50 games at least only thing he's not that good at is taking long shots.
     
  23. PinoyMarauder

    PinoyMarauder Member

    Apr 10, 2008
    Philippines/Canada
    persianfootball vs. rickchealse
     
  24. Sahand

    Sahand New Member

    Jul 6, 2006
    - Karimi did amazing stuff against some of the biggest teams in the World, AS Roma, Germany, AC Milan, Portugal, Ireland, Croatia, Hatrick vs. S. Korean team etc.
    - He was the star and MVP of 2004 Asian Cup by a disgustingly large margin, where we were robbed of a Karimi penalty vs. China and robbed of finals' spot.
    - He helped Bayern win the Bundesliga
    - He has great skill, I saw the videos, but I like Ali's technique better and I think he had a bigger arsenal of moves.
    - Asian Player of Year 2004

    Anyway, I don't think it's undisputed who is the best winger in Asian History, Mahdavikia has accomplished much more than Yousef ... 10+ years in Bundesliga, highest assist in all of Bundesliga (20) in 2003-2004, close to 250 appearances in Bundesliga, played in Champions League includign magical game vs. Zidane's Juventus where in one game he had 1 goal and 2 assists, 29goals in Bundesliga, scored once and assisted two goals in World Cup, 13 goals for his national team, helped Iran reach World Cup twice ... I mean, that's a lofty claim you have there. I think Youssef, despite his two wins in Asia Cup and Asia club championship, seems like he had a lot of talent but because of circumstances didn't realize all of his talent (in Yousef's case, because of Politics; in Karimi's case, because of not the right attitude). That's what we think of Karimi as well.

    Anyway, best players in Asian history Bum Kun Cha of South Korea for me, what he did with Frankfurt is incredible. And after him, is probably Kewell, Daei, Mahdavikia, Nakamura, Majid Abdullah, Nakata, Viduka, Sami Al-Jaber, Mohammad Al-Daeyee, Ahmad Abedzadeh, Park, Cahill, Schwarzer, Nekonaum etc. (not in any particular order, this can be debated who should go where). Many of these players haven't finished their careers, so we'll see what happens.
     
  25. scotch17

    scotch17 Member

    Jun 15, 2008
    Entebbe
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan

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