let me ask you something, is it possible to find a high end apartment or home in Bogota or other cities similar to something you would find here in Miami? Ive always had the impression that colombia tends to lag behind in terms of modernism and technological advancements.
my mother always uses the colombian passport to enter/exit colombia and american one to enter/exit the US
I don’t have a Colombian pass port but think I have a cedula. If they give me s hit do I just renounce citizenship or something?
Yes ur supposed to have a Colombian passport it’s the law. A lot depends on the immigration officer that you get. If they are a hardass they will ******** with you.
You can do or pay a fine and then get the passport when you are in Colombia. Just pay someone to stand in line for you:
Really? But if you come in as a us citizen why would they make you leave with a Colombian passport? I moved from Colombia when I was 3
Why tf don't you have a Colombian passport already You dont need to renounce shit. You're allowed to have dual citizenship
Technically yes. I did see one older lady who got all pissed and renounced her citizenship at the airport. Like I said it depends the agent you get and now you act. My dad hasn’t renewed his passport one of the times that he went and the agent just mentioned it to him but my dad got mouthy with agent so then the agent ********ed with him. I think he got a fine and had to renew his passport.
that’s kind of a stupid rule to force you to get a passport that you will not use. I get it that it’s their law and all but that seems like a way to piss off people and make them never come back and spend money in your country again my friend that it happened to was like fk that I’m just going to go to Cancun. He also wasn’t a fan of the pushy street vendors in Cartagena. Told him to go to Santa Marta way better beach and less touristy going to Boston/ NYC to go apply for the passport will take 2 days of PTO….. which isn’t exactly ideal. Not like I can make a trip of it and take the kids to the science museum or aquariam. The consulate is an all day cluster fk….. tho I haven’t had canollis from Mikes Pastry shop in a long time
I think that there's a different taste, more than lag behind, plus the cost difference (and the cheap local labor) make certain luxuries unatainable (or uunecessary), like a dishwasher or a 50 cubic feet refrigerator. I've seen some modern designs in Colombia, yet the feeling is different because the finishings are different. I think that Medellin and Barranquilla are more in tune with Miami, and that if you want something modern in Bogota, you really have to go high end, or move away from the city. Below are random pictures that I googled, and IMHO, it does feel modern.
I don't think that you can get a passport on the spot. Double check with the consulate because they can take your application and papers, but it may take weeks for the passport to arrive. PS I checked the Miami consulate page and it says 8 work days, about 2 weeks. 2nd PS: I think you need to make an appointment online: 2. CONSULADO EN BOSTON (ESTADOS UNIDOS) Representante: DAISY CAROLINA MEJIA GIL Cargo: CONSUL Circunscripción: Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island Y Vermont Dirección: 31 Saint James Avenue, Suite 960, Boston, Ma, 02116 Teléfono(s) local de la misión: +1 617 5366222 Teléfono si se encuentra en Colombia: 3814000 ext: 5192, 5194, 5195, 5196 Fax: e-mail: cboston@cancilleria.gov.co Página web: https://boston.consulado.gov.co Horario de Atención: 7:30 am a 1:30 pm únicamente con cita previa Se atenderá única y estrictamente a los connacionales por medio de agendamiento de cita, que se podrá realizar en la página del Consulado http://agendamiento.cancilleria.gov.co:8814/ No se atenderá a ningún connacional sin cita previa. Los trámites que se realizarán son los siguientes: -Trámites notariales: Reconocimientos de firma en documento privado; permisos de salida de menor; autenticación de copia; certificaciones. -Pasaportes -Registros de nacimiento, matrimonio y defunción -Cédulas de ciudadanía -Entrega de documentos: Cédulas y pasaportes Solicite cuantas citas sean necesarias para realizar los respectivos trámites. La realización de trámites de supervivencia se continuará por medios virtuales. Quienes requieran el trámite podrán llamar a la línea 617-5366222 de lunes a viernes de 7:30 AM hasta las 3:30 PM. Observaciones: Cita para Pasaporte, solo sábado consular a través de la página http://boston.consulado.gov.co/consulado/citas. Para reclamar documentos y otros trámites se atiende en horario habitual. Sábado Consular: Turnos y revisión de documentos entre 8:00 y 10:00 am en el primer piso. Línea gratuita para información: 18887643326.
would you say the prices are comparable to the ones here on average? surely they can't be worse, surely not. Those in the pics look perfect, no more is needed. Idk what it is about Bogota and those endless orange brick condos, but they are absolutely everywhere. That may be a general trend for colombia. Would you say that social classes are more defined in Colombia then they are over here? for example I know that many people that live in Brickell actually live with roommates to split the cost of rent. im not sure on other cities but in Bogota, apts don't have central AC for example. Can't say I felt a need for it regardless when I went.
passport at the consulate here for sure takes at least a few weeks from what I remember, I don't think anyone does same day passports. American passport at the post office also takes some time
no need for central ac in bogota all u need is heat. Remember in Colombia its by stratus.ALso the red bricks is because we got alot of shale and it's cheaper.
From what I saw in a real state page, they were in the order of col$2,000 millions or about us$500k for apartments around 200 sq mts (about 2000 sq ft). I will definetily retire in Colombia and will get a nice condo near the beach. Very common in Bogota, Santanderes and Medellin. It has to do with custom, availability and expertise, but yeah, we love our brick facades. Oh, yeah completely. And not only are a lot of Colombians snobs, but they can tell your socioeconomic status based on where you live, because at some point governments decided to charge taxes and utilities by "stratus". In Bogota at least, you are labeled from 1 (the poorest) to 6 (the richest); even worse, we despectively would call someone too poor or too unpolished "estrato 0", and someone super rich (or too pretentious) "estrato 10". Furthermore, during my time over there a common expression to call someone rude or rash was "Se le salio el estrato". Yup. Things I did not notice while living there. Not common at all. In hot cities you would have room AC and fans, and in cold cities chimenies or area heaters, or just wear more layers. The cost of a central AC is too much for normal residences, and only office buildings, hotels and big stores (and maybe luxury residences) will have a big central unit.
im not sure if I ever will live in colombia, but im open to it. I think that if something crazy happens here in america I will have to go over there unless I can secure a spanish passport which is possible. the "estrato" thing is some of the strangest shit i've ever seen in my life. I don't think ive ever understood what it means or how this is determined. I will say I wish they'd implement the "pico y placa" thing here to alleviate the crap traffic here. What would the "estrato" be for a normal middle class person be? at least they have AC in the hot cities, I went to cancun a few years ago and they had no kind of AC even though the city is hot as hell. For the same reasons you say, the cost is just too high over there. Can you imagine Miami with no AC? no chance in hell of me even lasting a season with no AC here.
We're only an election away from chaos, so it is nice to have a plan B. The bad news is that Colombia is also one election away from chaos. As Sid said, 3-4. 1 is very poor, 2 is poor, 5 is middle high and 6 is rich. It is based on property values, access to services and location, but yeah, it is strange when you look at it from the outside. Meh. It doesn't fully work and the net result is that a lot of people get a second car, or that they work into the exceptions. Mexico DF has it and traffic is horrible, and when pollution is at its worst, they basically prohibit any circulation for private cars. Bogota is horrible with our without, and Medellin did the same without a lot of improvements. The real solutions are mass transit and to increase density near the areas where people work. Oh yeah. I remember going to Melgar and Girardot when AC was not a thing and it was like living in hell. Now I'm more used to the heat, but I can't imagine surviving a whole summer at 90+ temperatures without AC.
China also has districts. They are not that weird if you live in a city. Bronx/Queens would not be the same type of district as Manhattan or now Brooklyn tho that use to be a shit hole 10 years ago. Boston is similar if you live in Newton or Brookline. It's a way way higher standard of living than say living in Dorchester or Southie. Tho while those places are poorer and not as nice in the US. In Colombia and China it feels like you go to different countries every time you go to one of the lower districts
If it wasn’t for my daughters, I’d move to Colombia. I have a business and while I love very comfortable here with the profits from it, I’d be a king there I’m a simple dude. Sports, gym, movies, and restaurants. I can do all of those things there. my son has autism so I could live with him anywhere and he goes with the flow. my girls would never agree to move there though, but I would
Just wait until they're in college. I will probably retire when my youngest one is about to finish college, which is still 11 years away, but definetily, your money goes a lot further there and you could live a very comfortable life with a relatively modest budget (I'd say US$3k to 4k/month). I could sell my house and get a more or less luxurios condo near the beach in Cartagena or Santa Marta, and still be 2 hours away from Miami. Just hope things don't go of the far end at either country.
Portugal apparently is very nice and cheap, but I think it would require more money upfront to get a retiree visa. Of course the main attractions are cheap healthcare and the ability to travel around Europe very easily. PS. Just checked and apparently Portugal has a "passive income" visa that is extremely easy to qualify for.