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Discussion in 'Columbus Crew' started by Bill Archer, Jun 2, 2004.

  1. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I genuinely like Dan Loney.

    I mean, yes, the guy is somewhere to the left of Leon Trotsky, feels about America the way Hitler felt about Poland and is a Galaxy fan who singlehandedly flogged that absurd "Victoria Street" name thing long after it was clear no one else was interested.

    Nonetheless, he's always seemed like an OK guy to me. Bright enough, even insightful on occasion.

    But this latest CSN screed about the Crew, well, I just don't get it. I mean, I know it's supposed to be zany and madcap and irreverent or something.

    But I've read it twice and, except for the repetition of various uses of "banana" which strikes me as completely witless, I simply don't understand a word of it.

    Yes, I know, Columbus is on a mission to prove us all wrong. I'm a little man, Frankie Hejduk is a great man. I should have been a pair of ragged claws scuttling across the silent seas, the middle word of life is "if."

    Is he on drugs now?

    And maybe he should have gotten ahold of his fellow fellow-travelers at CSN (Commie Sympathizer News) and gotten them to change the "all downhilll from here" part after the Crew selfishly went ahead and won again after he wrote it.

    Would somebody help? This seems like so much gibberish.

    http://www.cybersoccernews.com/columnists/loney/040528loney.shtml
     
  2. kaiser kraut

    kaiser kraut New Member

    Jun 26, 2001
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Aaaaaaaaaaah! My eyes! I can't read anymore, it's just too ... um... what's the word?... I can't stand it any longer. Curse you Bill for leading me to this article.


    Seriously, that didn't make any sense to me either. I guess the overall point is that the Crew are screwed and that we should get used to it now, rather than get our hopes up and get crushed like the Indiana Pacers.
     
  3. myshap

    myshap Member

    Jun 19, 2002
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Yeah, but isn't that already the mindset of every fan in Columbus concerning all our teams anyway?
     
  4. ZipSix

    ZipSix BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2000
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    At least it gave you a chance to make two totally unnecessary Lefty-bashing comments as well as question Loney's patriotism.
     
  5. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If I want to "question someone's patriotism" I will say "hey - I question this guy's patriotism". I won't be shy about it, dickbag.

    But like all liberal knee jerk dolts who have no argument anymore (Bush bad!!!!! Bush bad!!!!! doesn't really count as debate) you've resorted to the latest catch phrase. "Question his Patriotism". My God, don't any of you have anything intelligent to say?

    Pathetic. You get all of your arguments from Ted Kennedy?

    And if it's any of your business, Loney regularly calls me a lot worse. But since we're getting together on the 13th, it appears that neither of us take it personally.

    So the real question is "WTF is YOUR problem?"
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  6. TheImposter

    TheImposter Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    Centerville, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ummm... you guys have seen Apocalypse Now, haven't you? Or at least heard of it?

    This actually harkens back more to the classic SNL skit (yes, way, way back when it was still funny... no, even further, before Eddie Murphy) where guest host Martin Sheen is sent "up the river" on a paddle boat, with Garrett Morris pedaling, to "terminate production", with Bill Murray as Francis Ford Coppola.

    Oh, wait, Coppola is probably a liberal... sorry Bill.
     
  7. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    bActually, Apolcalypse Now is an updated version of Joseph Conrads' Heart of Darkness, an early modernist work by a multiligual Polish born writer set in the Belgian Congo which describes a journey up the river to a trading station run by a European who has become godlike in his power and influence with the natives and who his superiors would prefer dead because they fear the extent of his power,but who have tolerated it until now because it has provided them with huge profits.

    Martin Sheen's version, featuring Dennis Hopper as an American hippe/journalist as an updated version of Conrad's unamed Russian, an out-of-time, out-of-place sycophant to the Marlon Brando character, rejects the moralistic White Man's Burden colonialist ethos which permeates the original.

    It does however effectively reflect the self-destructive/suicidal effects of unlimited power which leads the protagonists to their encounter with the heart of drakness, which is essentially the heart of the human soul.

    No, never heard of it.
     
  8. TheImposter

    TheImposter Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    Centerville, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    See, I knew you were sandhogging this.
     
  9. Flyer Fan

    Flyer Fan Member+

    Apr 18, 1999
    Columbus, OH
    A Bill Archer post about Loney that didn't include a Lefty crack just wouldn't be right. It would be like going a day on the Crew forums without a Denton crack.
     
  10. ZipSix

    ZipSix BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2000
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Archer you only have two modes -- complete and total freak-out and normal. There's no inbetween. I'm not a dickbag, a liberal knee jerk dolt, pathetic, a Ted Kennedy devotee, or someone with a problem.

    I'm also not someone who needs to infuse everything he writes with invective that would make Ann Coulter blush.

    You said Loney feels about America the way Hitler felt about Poland. And that doesn't question his patriotism? Like I pulled "Liberal Responses" out of a hat and got that one?

    If you didn't like Loney's article cause it was bizarre, or because it wasn't flattering to the Crew, why can't you just say that without resorting to party-baiting? Why is it the "Commie Sympathizer News?" I guess it was think-up cute pinko acronym day?

    And if it's such insider (gosh-loney-and-i-are-buddies type) ribbing what was it doing in a public forum?

    To answer your only serious question, my problem is that 45% of this country agrees with the left, just like 45% agrees with the right. And the Crew boards might be your bully-pulpit on soccer topics, but it just ain't so with politics.
     
  11. myshap

    myshap Member

    Jun 19, 2002
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    "My meetings with him were very brief," Bush said. "I mean, I think I met with him at the State of the Union and just kind of working through the rope line, and he might have come up with a group of leaders. But I haven't had any extensive conversations with him."--President George W Bush

    "I did not have sexual relations with that woman...Monica Lewinsky"--President Bill Clinton

    Proving once again there is no difference between either party or it's leaders.

    How do you know the One Party is lieing to you?

    They open their mouths and words come out.

    Vote Liberterian, stop the One Party.
     
  12. Own Goal Hat-Trick

    Jul 28, 1999
    ColoRADo
    typically id be like sure, thats fantastic, anything to get a more multi party system up and running, but, esp since the libertarian and independant votes are going to probably come from kerrys side, id almost say screw it and vote kerry, just to get bush the ******** out of office.
     
  13. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks, but I'll say whatever I bloody well please to whomever I bloody well want to say it.

    If you don't think it's appropriate, then become a mod and delete my posts.

    Have a nice day.
     
  14. Raoul

    Raoul New Member

    Sep 19, 1999
    Downtown Dublin
    "Ahhh, the sweet smell of Napalm in the morning".

    Perhaps you two just might epitomize the polarization, political party only interests, and overly emotional reactions that are driving those of us who are goal, and not party, interested from electoral responsibility?

    Just a thought...

    Sorry to interrupt the meaningless, ego first, tribal warfare among you grocery clerks.
     
  15. jackrock

    jackrock Member

    Aug 19, 2003
    Talcott. WV
    Club:
    DC United
    sacrifice

    Why do you guys get so mad? Right OR Left you have to admit that we are all blessed. We live in a great society, we have a surplus of goods. How many of us don't have clean water or enough food? After reflecting on all the sacrifices made by our parents and grandparents it seems like we would cut each other a little slack. But don't let silly stuff like common sense get in the way of your name calling.

    And in the I'll-say what-I-bloody-well-want etc. line, I really don't like the crew. And this thread was about an article on the team right? Before it degenerated into political poop? Geezum-crow, Brian McBride was, is, and always will be awesome, and was so once again for the Nat's last night. And when he was in MLS he was true crew. I respect that, and to not say so is weak.
     
  16. kaiser kraut

    kaiser kraut New Member

    Jun 26, 2001
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bill, I think you must be moody because your wife's on the rag or something... nah, just messin pal.
     
  17. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    A sense of humor is truly needed to read these boards. Politics are part of it. It's a message board, who cares.

    The main problem I have is that Apocalypse now was an overated piece of bunk. The greatest war movie I have ever seen was Full Metal Jacket because it got beyone that whole "fog of war" crap that was Apocalypse Now.

    But I only say that Full Metal Jacket was the best war movie beacuse Michael Ciminio's The Deer Hunter, while partly a movie about war was really about so much more and doesn't deserve to be lumped in as a war movie. The Deer Hunter remains the finest piece of film making over the past 40 years.

    Too anyone who disagrees, I ask, "Why do you hate America?"
     
  18. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Platoon is pretty close:



    Junior:Simple, free your mind and the ass will follow.

    Bunny: Hey, I can dig it, man. When you smoke that sh!t everything kind of gets weird, you know what I mean? You heard that story about the gooks putting chemicals in the grass so we don't fight and become pacifists?

    Junior: Yeah, but don't you worry Bunny, 'cos you're used to kill anyway, man.

    Bunny: Yeah, but I still like a piece of pvssy once in a while. Ain't nothing like a piece of pvssy, except maybe the Indy 500.

    Junior: The only way you get some pvssy man, is if a bitch dies and wills it to you. And then, maybe!
     
  19. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Being as though I've been in a slump...and being as though I just went to the Indy 500 for the first time this past weekend I can say that bunny is full of ********. The Indy 500 may be the greatest spectacle in racing, but pvssy is pvssy.

    So the distortion of facts by Bunny leads me to stick with Full Metal Jacket as the better film.
     
  20. Eggy

    Eggy New Member

    May 28, 1999
    CBUS
    I'm so ********ing hung over this morning. How a couple beers watching Argies vs Brazil turned so bad I'll never know.
     
  21. melloyello

    melloyello Member

    Dec 19, 2000
    Columbus
    i just so happened to rent apocolypse now last week. and as it is a weekly rental at the local videotan, i watched it four times. i must respectfully disagree with your opinion regarding AN and FMJ. there also happened to be a trailer for a 'making of' type documentary called hearts of darknes: something something at the beginning of the tape but, unfortunately it wasn't at the videotan. i haven't read that book but it has jumped to the front of my list. if you care to chat about any of the movies discussed in this thread i would be more than happy to as i have seen them all numerous times. however, in the interest of preserving the original topic of this thread, just send me a pm.

    ps dan loney is a fool.
     
  22. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    i'm too lazy to pm. talk to me about deer hunter.
     
  23. melloyello

    melloyello Member

    Dec 19, 2000
    Columbus
    the deer hunter is a very powerful movie. i wouldn't label it a war movie, neither would i label apocolypse now a war movie. at least not in the same vein as full metal jacket, platoon et al. war definately plays a major role in these (AN, DH) but i don't see it as the most important theme. human nature and internal conflict resolution seem more the focus to me.
     
  24. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    we should discuss next time I am in columbus.
     
  25. Flyer Fan

    Flyer Fan Member+

    Apr 18, 1999
    Columbus, OH
    I suspect I've seen the basic training part of Full Metal Jacket 25x more than I've seen the entire movie.
     

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