Alert: Transfer Window Talk!

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by benni..., Oct 14, 2021.

  1. Holy__Joe

    Holy__Joe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 31, 2007
    Manchester
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Dan Ashworth has left the club, bye bye sporting director.....

    We paid millions for him to leave Newcastle, pissed around and he's gone in 5 months.

    Well that's gotta say how much of a shitshow we must be behind the scenes.....he didn't face a single transfer window
     
  2. Chaz Striker

    Chaz Striker Member+

    Jul 26, 2005
    Denver
    That’s awesome
     
  3. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jun 30, 2013
    Casper, WY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fab saying SJR was pissed.

    IMG_20241208_060857.jpg
     
  4. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jun 30, 2013
    Casper, WY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  5. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Ashworth reported to Berrada. Ashworth was delegated the responsibility for managing the transfer window and all the press releases had his name on supposedly.

    When it came to appointing a replacement manager that was more Berrada / Brailsford and there are clearly differences of opinion between Berrada and Ashworth. Looks like SJR sided with Berrada.

    Some speculation that Txiki Begiristain having recently announced he is leaving City might be a target but don't think he is leaving City until June 2025.

    You would think the club (Ineos) have someone in mind, unless this is just an emotional knee-jerk reaction to how things are going.
     
  6. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Another thing that comes to mind is that Ashworth wanted to implement the Brighton model of having replacements lined up.

    The club appointing van Nistelrooy and Rene Hake as assistant coaches who looked to be ready made replacements if EtH left, then both of them being sacked too when Amorim came in makes it look like we threw out the Ashworth model.

    If you bin the model then you kind of have to bin the guy too I guess.

    Whatever it looks all over the place from Ineos atm. Since they officially came in, they went to great length to get Ashworth, to seek alternatives to EtH, to then u-turn and keep EtH, to ditch EtH staff, to appoint their own staff in Ruud and Hake, to sign some EtH players (De Ligt, Maz), to then throw out EtH, RvN, Hake, Ashworth.

    All in less than a half a year. What a sh1t show.
     
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  7. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    So wait they didn't know his philosophies when they paid millions to get him released from Newcastle? And now they can him? Jeez.....
     
  8. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Yeah, well be here forever.

    Ill be watcing my 90's hilights on MUTV. This rot isnt gonna stop.
     
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  9. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    This club deserves a Southgate or Potter if were being honest. We've had LVG and Jose Mourinho. Two of the best managers pre Pep. You think were going to find better? We have players who are right up those guys ally.

    Potter made Dunk look like something. Southgate rocks with Maguire. Thats our level. We dont deserve the best young managers, we wont back them.

    This might appear to be an emotional outburst, but think about it. You think Pep would turn this club around?
     
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  10. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jun 30, 2013
    Casper, WY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, Pep couldn't - and Pep only works with massively talented squads anyway...

    I think SAF made a deal with the Devil that as long as he was manager, United would be successful. However, once he left, we would never know success again.
     
  11. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I think this whole debacle is clearly a power play between Omar and Ashworth. I suspect they had significant differences of opinion, Omar pulled rank (likely on Amorim) and Ashworth chose to escalate to SJR and Brailsford who sided with Omar.

    That's my best guess.
     
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  12. thefly

    thefly Member+

    Aug 9, 2007
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Seeing reports that it was that Ashworth wanted an English coach (Southgate) and that he was not in agreement with pursuing Amorim and that Omar took over and handled everything with Amorim and Sporting.

    Interesting thing is that when Ashworth was on gardening leave, there were a lot of reports out of Newcastle that he was actually not that significant and that others handled the day to day matters etc. I took this as re-writing history / sour grapes, but maybe there was some actual truth to it
     
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  13. JC7rox

    JC7rox Member+

    Manchester United FC, LAFC
    Jun 11, 2004
    West Coast, Cali!
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    This is kind of funny. They spent all that money to get this guy. Money the club barely has.

    Isn't INEOS on a short-term deal with the Glazers? Better get it together, boys.
     
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  14. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    To be fair, it is an anti Glazer move. Rather than save money and keep a malcontent on, they cut weight and decided to move forward.
     
  15. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Some further reports from The Athletic on the reasons.

    Fundamentally seems they were just extremely unimpressed with him. Cough not properly scouted cough ;)

    https://thepeoplesperson.com/2024/1...ssal-as-man-uniteds-sporting-director-288461/
     
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  16. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Is the Dutch Jerome Boateng of Leverkusen on our radar now that we do a 343? He would be great but I believe he is on the same wing as Amad. We need a better LWB cause I am losing faith in Dalot and every one we have tried.
     
  17. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    I initially thought you were talking about Jonathan Tah, even tho he isnt dutch, he's closer to Jerome Boateng, than anyone else. We have been linked with Jeremie Frimpong though.
     
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  18. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Ineos paid almost £300m to rent the club. Obviously SJR would still have owner ship, but how much is that worth for a club on the decline?
     
  19. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Yeah that's him. I blanked on his name completely. What is sad is I am Ghanian so I know for sure somebody in my family knows someone in his family. I am gonna do 50 push-ups for my sins.
     
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  20. thefly

    thefly Member+

    Aug 9, 2007
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
  21. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    I heard he wanted ETH to stay, then helped signed some players whom I personally don't rate that high in De Ligt and Zirkzee, then demanded Southgate or Potter as you said.

    Now I'm reading he got paid £10m. Surely he was a sleeper agent sent by MBS
     
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  22. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Zataxis
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
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  23. thefly

    thefly Member+

    Aug 9, 2007
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
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  24. Anonymous_United

    Manchester United
    Brazil
    Jul 13, 2018
    This is the right approach for foreseeable future.We have to target young players with high ceiling.
     
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  25. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Rashford [and Ultimately Mount] replacements

    1. Omar Marmoush
    2. Rayan Cherki
    3. Desire Doue
    4. Matheus Cunha
    5. I really wanna put Kvaradona here, but I dunno how realistic that is. Same with Cherki
     

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