Alert: Transfer Window Talk!

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by benni..., Oct 14, 2021.

  1. Chaz Striker

    Chaz Striker Member+

    Jul 26, 2005
    Denver
    With all the conditions previously mentioned, it makes the most sense. The only thing to add, those three locations aren’t any better than Manchester.
     
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  2. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    We've also been linked with Kerkez, the LB from Bournemouth.
     
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  3. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I hadn't seen that one. Not sure I've seen enough of him to judge his quality.
     
  4. Chaz Striker

    Chaz Striker Member+

    Jul 26, 2005
    Denver
    Spurs just announced a £108MM loss and a search for investors. Maybe we can get udogie.
     
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  5. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    They’re gonna get Jassim and become City mk 2.
     
  6. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    I won't don't it. And they won't mess about with the price like the Glazers did. We made the PL a sexy place to be and now we can't even get into the VIP section of a club we built. Life comes at you fast.
     
  7. thefly

    thefly Member

    Aug 9, 2007
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    ESPN reports that Toney is available for 40M
     
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  8. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    What's the over under on that?
     
  9. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    [​IMG]
     
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  10. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    not expecting much this summer window. we're hampered by FFP amongst other things but there is still things we can do and be clever in the window.

    yea there's supposed to be new folks in place but they aren't as yet and even if they do arrive they've proven nothing so no reason to trust them.

    anyway i'd like to see:

    1. serious exploration of long forgotten markets - i.e. La Liga, Bundesliga, South America
    2. on SA - please look into Ecuador. they're having a golden generation period so try get a gem before someone else does and asks north of £50m+ (which we can't pay)
    3. look into the Belgian pro league - some gems have come out of there recently
    4. try loans WITHOUT obligations to buy this time
    5. avoid buys from big clubs even if they're good players unless they are on discount. everyone knows we're desperate and will fleece
    6. target buy out clauses for good players since we are rubbish at negotiation
    7. free transfers - there are a few good to very good players in that pool. rare but they are there

    i'll do my usual free transfer list shortly. maybe with bonus
     
  11. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Good point on Ecuador. We're late to the party.

    5 is interesting. I get it, but we regularly get fleeced by "smaller clubs" as well, lmao.

    7 is also a good point, but its usually older players who are free agents. I just saw a list, not gonna include our own free agents.

    Thiago Silva
    Tiago Alcantara
    Willian
    Ivan Perisic
    Eric Dier
    Joel Matip
    Seamus Coleman
    James Milner
    Mohammed El Neny
    Serge Aurier
    Idrissa Gueye
    Danny Welbeck
    Tosin Adarabioyo [sp?].
    Felipe [forest CB]
    Nate Clyne
    Fabianski
    Ben Mee
    Bertrand Traore
    Michel Antonio
    Ryan Christie
    Will Huges
    Dele Ali


    Thats just England and theres only one player I'd look at [not sure if Id take him] and its Tosin.

    https://theathletic.com/5171165/2024/01/01/free-agents-transfers-contracts-expiring/
     
  12. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Modric, Kroos, Ramos, Koke, Giroud, Rabiot,

     
  13. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Realistically, we dont want none of those guys. Not even 1.
     
  14. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    damn sir. you went into overdrive.

    valid point about small club fleecing too. guess i was thinking big clubs are more unwilling to lose their best guys
     
  15. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
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    Manchester United FC
    Our FFP situation won’t get better until we get better at selling players and get better at discovering guys before they become “the guy”.

    It sounds silly, but we need to have more signings like Dan James. We spent a relatively small amount of money for a guy we thought had potential. He didn’t pan out to the level we thought, but he was young enough and showcased enough that we were able to move him quickly because we weren’t deeply invested and move him for a profit.
     
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  16. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    well benni covered the free transfer list more or less. as a reminder Grimaldo was one my list last year who was a free (shot down) as i thought we needed an actual good LB.

    i wanted to do a 1-year left list as well. every summer there is at least one dumb comment about the list - bear in mind beggars can't be choosers and realise how far United has fallen. this is not to meant to trigger title challenge this is just to stabilise.

    also understand there is a decent chance none of these want to join us anyway, they're just interesting names or potentially interesting names.

    here goes the +1 list:

    GKs:

    Unai Simón (26) - yea there is Onana but i expect Heaton to leave
    Lunin (25)

    DEFs:

    Dumfries (28) - been banging on this drum for a while
    Tah (28) - likely he will stay with Leverkusen? but you never know
    Walker-Peters (27) - we need good fullbacks
    Lamptey (23) - we need good fullbacks
    Geertruida (23)
    Davies (23)
    Mendy (28) - the Madrid guy
    Tyrick Mitchell (24)

    MIDs:

    Kimmich (29)
    Anguissa (28)
    Cherki (20)
    Angel Gomes (23)
    Fofana (25) - the Monaco guy
    Merino (27)

    FORs:

    David (24)
    En-Nesyri (26)

    OTHERs:

    Giménez (23) - cooler than the title winning season so possibly cheaper
    Guirassy (28) - rumoured buy out clause of €20m
    Toney (28)
    Chiesa (26)
    Tel (19) - talented and looking for more game time
    Zirkzee (22) - talented. 2 years left on contract
    Gyökeres (25) - gonna cost but still a big fan. maybe if we can manage one big buy like Højlund
    Son (31) - would have loved this 4 years earlier (ideal)
    Sané (28)

    ======

    Taremi (31) - good domestic goal scoring record last few years expect this one. not great but we need bodies and will be free. probably worst case?
     
  17. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Obvs the fee is a big issue, however we need some sanity on the wages we will be paying people too.

    We will not attract the right people if they will only take xx% over what they can earn elsewhere.

    For example Toney (28) is currently on £36k and is reportedly asking for £250k which is £10k more than captain Bruno and more than twice what Licha is on. If we pay anything even close to that we are crazy and have learnt nothing.

    [​IMG]
     
  18. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
  19. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
  20. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City

    The guys I'd look at on that list. Merino is a question mark because of his age, and his he a better 6 or better 8?

    Mendy has injury issues. Davies is going to Madrid.
    Sane always seems like he's available. Love his game, but why cant he stay put and actually push on? I'd still take him if it was free or cheap.
     
  21. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    it's all good. certainly better than everyone's favourite Ashur who tried to debate wages based on a fans sports blog :)

    slightly confused by this, so would look at Giménez but no thanks? expecting another Giménez?? it's Santi @ Feyenoord just to confirm.

    do you have another realistically available forward in mind?

    think Merino is more 8(?) i don't see Sociedad too often. not a team i am interested in watching. also 27 isn't a bad age?
     
  22. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica

    8. target clubs under financial pressure as best as we can. at least try.

    example: if Wolves still have financial woes pressure them like hell for Cunha. they already had to give up Neves.

    i'll probably be "negative" for this again but regardless of what we choose to do we're already behind. we should already be reaching out to agents/clubs for potential targets if not already agreeing terms and deals.

    it honestly feels like we're treating the supposed new targets for the boardroom like any other player transfer - it's a saga and shit is dragging on and no progress is being made.

    be decisive. pay up and get the damn moves done
     
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  23. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    So, i was on the fence about Gimenez. Im not sure how much he'd cost, but I'd rather someone else without even knowing the price tag.

    The forwards being thrown around are Zirkzee, Sesko [allegedly has a release clause of less than 45mil GBP] and
     
  24. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Interesting vid, suggests EtH based on a few things in particular recent buys and players we are being linked with (plus how youth teams playing) is looking to a variation of 3-4-3 next season.

    Not sure if true and if (as seems likely) EtH doesnt make it to manage next season we will never know.

     
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  25. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Interesting article from James Ducker that surprisingly for The Telegraph does not appear to be behind the usual pay wall.

    Aludes to some of the above.

    Apparently (as posted in the match day thread) EtH has been told by Jason Wilcox from this game on to have the team focus more on possession - so they can judge which players will be able to fit with the new 'game model' (potentially bad news for the turnover machines Antony, McTominay in the rare times he touches the ball, Rashford, this season Casemiro and even Bruno at times).

    The 'game model' will be a key criteria in judging incomming players in terms of fit. So would be interesting to know the detail of what this will be wrt formation etc. (ie need for a pivot, need for a #10, wing-backs or fullbacks, type of CB etc.).

    How Jason Wilcox’s ‘game model’ aims to find Man Utd’s identity and end era of zombie squads
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...ed-game-model-jason-wilcox-identity-transfer/
     
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