Transfer Rumors Abroad

Discussion in 'Colombians Abroad' started by Froboy69, Dec 20, 2013.

  1. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    1923769187119288668 is not a valid tweet id
     
    crzdcolombian and HomietheClown repped this.
  2. Uzuriaga

    Uzuriaga Member+

    Feb 9, 2009
    Estocolmo
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Hope it happens, he must be their record signing if it goes through. Bad thing is that they don't play CL. But at this point I'm just glad if he goes to Europe. And he speaks Portuguese so he'd probably settle down fast.
     
    HomietheClown repped this.
  3. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    if you read the article, it says his price is 30m which is twice his market value and the price would be impossible for Porto. They want him, but can't afford him.
     
  4. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    This the thing with our guys I don't understand why Portuguese teams don't scoop more of them, they've been some of the most successful, if guys like Rios and Arias can't get into the prem they'd be perfect for the top teams in Portugal and get into Europa and Champions league.
     
  5. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Benfica or Sporting got the cash right now, Porto has financial issues so yeah I'd be surprised they pay that for him. Rios and Arias would crush it there and sadly I'm less and less hopeful of them getting into the the EPL and the other leagues are unlikely to pay what Brazil wants.
     
  6. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    It’s cuz those mf’ers are cheap… even for Enzo Fernandez they were unwilling to pay his miniscule $25m clause: they only paid $10m + like $6m in bonuses, but left us 25% of his transfer (which worked out for us because that left us like $40m when they sold him to Chelsea just 4 months later)

    But the point is these Portuguese teams are suuuuuper stingy, even though they end up receiving fortunes for our players when they resell them shortly after. Same with Porto and Falcao — he was already super accomplished before moving to Portugal, but the bastards waited for his contract to near an end to force a cheap move (I think they paid like $4m).

    Long story short, these Portuguese clowns are funded entirely by the sale of South American talents, but when it comes to paying SA clubs they are extremely reluctant to open up their wallets
     
  7. Uzuriaga

    Uzuriaga Member+

    Feb 9, 2009
    Estocolmo
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Yeah not much point in paying 30M for a player if the plan is to resell him.
    Bottom line is Palmeiras has to lower the price or they won't get anything. For every year he is one year older and teams will be more reluctant to pay their price.
     
  8. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Yeah it's crazy how much they've benefited from South American talents and they've remained stingy as ********. I mean it's kind of impressive tbh the discipline, and I don't understand how South America as a selling market hasn't figured out how to bargain better, I sense Brazil is now starting to do that and the Colombian players are suffering because of it.
     
    locoxriver repped this.
  9. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    More rumors that Deco loves Diaz and is still pushing to try and sign him. I'd imagine this will be sorted shortly as Diaz will either sign a renewal or he'll have to put in a transfer request and be willing to play hardball to move to Barca. Logically it still makes a ton of sense if they can get the money, it allows them to keep Lewy one more year and provide cover across the front 4 without destabilizing any starters. I also think with Lamine's potential Ballon D'or and their explosion the team will probably be able to get more sponsorship money looking to jump on the train early, Diaz should do it and with Gakpo Liverpool does have cover and probably needs to raise some money to buy a new top class 9.
     
    Doogs repped this.
  10. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    its been reported for months that he is the chosen one by Deco (their sporting director). Age is not a concern in their case because the majority of their team is made up of teenagers with few top level seasons under their belt.

    they have had several candidates but they prefer having el guajaro.
     
  11. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    The more I looked at the situation the more I can see why Deco is dead set on Lucho, there is 1 guy in the world who has the level and skill set to be a like for like with Raphina and also be a better substitute for Yamal then Raphina while also being a 9. He's also a Spanish speaker and a humble hard worker who won't demand crazy wages, but they'll have to pay for him. I also think the age is ideal, they need guys in their prime and they need to leave space to get a top 9 next year and keep room for La Masia guys to play, and 3 players to cover those positions blocks them.
     
    HomietheClown and Doogs repped this.
  12. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  13. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I have been wanting this to happen since the rumors started many months ago.

    He will always be a star at Liverpool but at Barcelona he can become a Legend.
     
  14. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Liverpool already singing Frimpong and going in for another fullback. They may need to raise funds with sales, and I'm not sure they'll get much for Nunez and Chiesa. I think they also need a new 9 next year as Jota has fallen off and that'll cost them, and they like Gakpo so if Diaz makes his mind he wants to go to Barca it might be possible around 45-60m, I don't think Barca can go above 60m. They'll also have to pay Diaz, and after Salah and Van Dijk renewals and them being cheap they may have more reasons to accept it, especially after losing TAA for nothing this summer.
     
  15. Uzuriaga

    Uzuriaga Member+

    Feb 9, 2009
    Estocolmo
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Sad thing with Lucho though is that he has bad press. Pundits and fans love to shit on him. Just read on any site about the news that he might go to Barca,negative comments galore if someone says something positive it's probably a Colombian.
    Don't know what Flick thinks about him either, a few months ago, there were some negative comments from him about Lucho where he appeared skeptical of the signing. May be BS though, but I still can't find a positive note from Flick on the whole deal.

    It doesn't matter that he's been instrumental in LFCs title and that he's liverpools most important attacker after Salah. He's a workhorse that sacrifice himself like few others, but apart from Klopp and Slot he hasn't gotten that much credit for that outside of the Colombian press.
    So it really sucks that he still has to prove himself, and that few see the big picture outside of colombian media. No one trashtalks about Gakpo or Chiesa the same way. About Darwin it may be 50/50 but I've even read morons that prefer darwin over lucho too, not that lucho is a real 9.

    So to me the best thing would be a good wage at liverpool and that he stays. Maybe with time finally the fans will start respecting him, it's annoying the comments but I guess it has to do with him not speaking the language either. Gakpo appears more sympathetic because he can actually talk to the press. Of course that would change in spain, but even if I hate the LFC fans trashtalk I think the Barca ones are even worse, so it's not an ideal situation. Also it's a bigger achievement to win stuff with LFC and lucho owns his LW. Don't think anyone is going to take it away from him as long as Slot is there.

    About frimpong it shows that they go for players of the same nationality which means that the Muñoz rumours were probaby true, now it went to another dutch guy instead. They've also showed interest in a hungarian dude and in Julian Alvarez since they've got Mac.
     
  16. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    The Spanish Media who follow Liverpool and broadcast their matches seem to absolutely adore Lucho. Also, when we beat Spain in a friendly all the media members were raving about him.

    I think he will do fine. Imagining him and Yamal attacking defenders is just pure fantasy enjoyment for the moment but can be reality soon. I want to see it happen.
     
  17. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Milos Kerkez is excellent, but yeah. Slot is turning Liverpool into a Dutch only club

    Btw the backup option to Kerkez is Jorrel Hato lol, more Dutch.

    How long before we see Weghorst

    Frimpong is very similar to TAA though I think it's a great replacement
     
  18. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    One thing you have to always consider is most people are morons and aren't looking deep into players, Gakpo for example is just an attacking player and looks fluid and smooth on the ball. People who are looking deeper appreciate and understand what Diaz brings, which is why Klopp loved him and had him nailed on, he's the same guy who really understood Mane's value (which Diaz and Raphina have the same mold, defend like crazy and play direct).

    Barca fans its the same thing, lots of people think singing Diaz is a disaster and they should sign Leao or Nico Williams. Nico Williams doesn't play direct like Raphina attacking the back post, when you have a Lamine or a Salah on one side who wants the ball at their feet and is like a 10 on one wing, you need someone who will make off the ball runs on the other side and that's Mane, Raphina, Diaz. they also need to press like crazy in this system, and it helps they are two footed. Now on top of those qualities Diaz is also a fantastic dribbler, so he can be the Yamal backup and provide for Raphina on the other side, and like Mane he can be moved into the 9 position. 3 players in 1 and has the must have profile of direct attacker at the back post who can finish in the air, with his feet and defend like a dog. Most fans don't see those things and only appreciate the luxury, the Barca fans said the same thing about Raphina, Xavi didn't value him and under Flick and Deco he's put up a ballon d'or level season.

    Diaz will be good staying or going, he's a value to either team and I don't worry about him once he's there, coaches adore him because of what he brings.
     
    Uzuriaga repped this.
  19. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    People are dumb as hell, it's the same thing everywhere.

    That's why I don't read other people's comments unless it's someone I consider to be reputable.
     
  20. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    1924612942697288169 is not a valid tweet id


    This dude was one of the biggest busts of all time
     
  21. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    he's also wrong, sounds like an american or a british fan (or like something crzd would say) who's too lazy to watch the games.
     
  22. Uzuriaga

    Uzuriaga Member+

    Feb 9, 2009
    Estocolmo
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I disagree with his statement. Lucho has flaws but consistency isn't one of them to me. He certainly doesn't "disappear".
    Had he said that he's wasteful in front of goal and that he sometimes has poor decisionmaking/end product I could've bought that. But Lucho always gives everything on the pitch. I think he confuses "disappearing" with "delivering". To me Lucho always gives it all but he doesn't always deliver because that's the name of the game. "disappearing" sounds like he doesn't give a sht.

    Anyway this is what I was talking about earlier. People shitting on Lucho is widespread but somehow he was still a regular starter both under Klopp and Slot.

    It's not a good environment to go to a new club. I remember when Diaz went from Porto to Liverpool, everone really excited about him. Then somewhere along the line he got his "haters" coming up, in spite of him improving and being a better player today than he was back then. Ironic.

    I think the Mané comparisons was one reason since Mané scored more goals and was more direct. Not a better player overall though.
     
  23. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Every player has haters, part of the game, I don't think Lucho is affected one bit the guy overcame crazy circumstances to get to where he is. You never see a drop off in effort or workmate from Lucho, morons will see what they want but managers appreciate Lucho because he doesn't shy away and he always works for the team in both sides of the game.
     
    Doogs repped this.
  24. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Screenshot_20250520_082624_X.jpg


    This is because the chosen one is el guajaro
     
  25. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    A year under flick's system and they have sorted out what profile they need, Nico is great but he's not getting into the box like Raphina and Diaz can to feast off of Yamal's service and space he creates for the opposite flank. Slot has started to recognize what Diaz can do in the box and closer to goal, if we get Diaz to Barca we'll see his true potential, which is higher than Raphina imo.
     

Share This Page