I know. I have to argue with them and say maybe at some positions it is the case but they do not realize that there are very talented players who do not play in Europe or big clubs who are great for Colombia. Some USA fans are going to be in for a rude awakening if they think there is a talent advantage cause there is not in my book.
they've been saying this since the 90s, its the north american delusion thats always turned me off. The mexicans do the same thing and its the same story with them we'll crush america again in a few months like we always do
Well, I am not sure about crushing but yes, Colombia should be favored. USA is getting players to good teams and leagues though so I am not going to argue much with them about talent. But we have to keep things real. There is no talent advantage for the USA.
a win is what I want and a win is what we'll get, which is like saying grass is green and water is wet
I don't even want to get caught in a vortex with a guy who didn't even present any reason Pulisic is better other then Giroud his teammate said so but if you extrapolate their minutes Sini still blows Pulisic away over the last year with all the injuries and in a harder league. He's just a better all round player in more areas and his goal output when healthy will likely normalize.
There is something called an eye test. I have watched almost as much of each of their careers from start to today. I have always been consistent. From what I have seen at both club and country Pulisic is a very good player. Sini has the potential to be better. But he is not better than Pulisic and this year is proving my point. Pulisic is arguably the best foreign transfer to Italy this season, a team leader for Milan and a very good goal scorer and passer for assists. Things I have emphasized based on my two eyes which I trust more than analytics. You basically said Sini was better and said Pulisic would not be able to play out on the right with Leao on the left side which was completely false.
This is a silly argument. Pulisic is a fantastic footballer who simply can't stay healthy. He has had a wonderful first season at Milan - his best in ages and scored some important goals. He is VERY important to the US NT and therefore is going to get lots of commercial exposure. That can all be true AND co exist with reality that Sini is even more gifted with a higher ceiling. However, they are both horrifically injury prone so it doesn't matter. You'd be nuts to build a team around either. I follow both of these NTs very closely - and while the Colombian squad is a better team, this is by a distance the most talented team the US has ever had. And while we lament, often, the lack of mentality the Colombian NT has had historically, the US has pretty consistently outperformed the quality of their players and horrendous coaching for many years in international competition on sheer grit. If they are able to lure Klopp or Pep prior to 26 they could make a significant step.
LOL marginal. Look, I will say it one last time if anyone thinks bringing in obscure stats and heat maps to prove that one player is better than the other and those stats are the be-all-end- all then I guess that is fine. You have the right to believe that. However, there's probably some metric that shows that Cucho is better than Messi in MLS so take that for what it is worth. As I have said all a long, a majority of people would think it is crazy to say SIni is better than Pulisic so yes, let's move on from that craziness.
Yes marginal lol. Sini hasn’t made it in the epl and Pulisic failed in England as well Doing decent in Italy is not a big deal to me. We’ve seen Muriel, Barca, Duvan, and everyone’s favorite cuadrado do really well there. It is a league where a guy like Giroud is one of the better players. I like serie A but attackers do well there. Pulisic is a marginal player. U.S is the giant of Concacaf, crappy shitty Concacaf and somehow managed to miss the World Cup during his reign. He will never be a big time player and neither will Sini. They are marginal players that no one besides us and Americans care about to ever mention, let alone debate
Times like these are when I wish we had mods. I hate talking about other random players. This is supposed to be a Colombian forum
Eh it’s ok I don’t mind it. He was right though, so far the American has been better than sini we are right too, Pulisic is NOTHING special
Homie just wants to rehash the same arguments and adds nothing other than "some people say". It's a waste of time, the guy thought Rueda was a great manager and that Tesillo and Oscar Murillo were better than Lucemi because "some people say". I don't think he actually has an independent thought about the game of soccer other than what he's spoon fed by media which is why he can't comprehend that Pulisic is nothing special as a player.
Feedback noted! I generally try to let things go as long as people don't violate t&c. Usually these kinds of flair ups pass when folks go off topic.
I have watched many games. Too many games in my life. I can compare players and what they do on the field along with their intangibles and leadership qualities and watch interviews from coaches and teammates and such and come to valid conclusions that may not be metric based. You have never heard of something passing the "eye test" before? It is a common idiom used in the USA especially when pertaining to sports.
of course I know about the eye test. + Used in the DMV to pass a drivers license + Used when trying to pick a hot chick other than that, unless you're some famous sports or talent agent that uses such proven eye test to pick a potential star, your eyes are just like the rest of us BS posters ....not to be confused with having a great ear.
No one is claiming anything about being famous or sports agent. Just that analytics is a tool, observations is another tool, information from managers and teammates is another tool or source to come to what can be valid conclusions about a player and how good they are. As I have said multiple times in the Sini thread. Also, everyone has an opinion and I value everyone’s opinion so do not make it seem like the opposite.
Big man seems to be doing a great job at Cagliari and is helping keep them up right now. Hope he stays in Seria A, have wanted him there for ages.