Yes, you are.. and you're being provided free legit answers. Take em or leave em, but you did ask for them.
Negotiate before you agree to anything. Either entering the portal or agreeing to a new school. Coaches may cut your player but the school has a binding financial contract. Coach wants scholarship money back, make them uphold their legal obligation. Then get your player the hell out of there as soon as you can. They don't need the toxicity, there is a soccer home for most.
Once a player chooses to enter the portal the school can cancel their scholarship immediately. There is no legal obligation. They have chosen to quit the team.
Functionally, it's the same. The player plays in the fall and doesn't return to the team. I understand all the points you make. My point is that an athlete fulfilling their obligation to the season should qualify for their scholarship for the full academic year. Granted, this is an edge case. Few athletes will choose to NOT move to their new school immediately.
Thank you everyone for your input. My kid is graduating, but not until spring (May). She isn't quitting or leaving the team. She will still be rehabbing and being an active participant in the spring. She has had a very honest and open communication line with her coach. Nothing toxic or bad situation for her, other than her season ending injury and she is graduating. We knew she wasn't staying for her 5th year. My only concern is: with her entering the portal early, (and that was a direct suggestion from her coach), is how does that work exactly. we are wondering things like- does she sign at her new school, or give a verbal commitment until graduation, etc. We are simply trying to cross our T's and dot out I's. Without some crazy surprises that could be detrimental to her graduating. We have already gone through the portal two years ago, but it was in the spring and she was done with classes, etc. We know that aspect of it. This is a new piece.
If she wants to be safe she could wait to go in the portal in May. In her situation, the coach should not pull her scholarship if she/he is a decent human being. I think it is a different situation when they are graduating and want to pursue a masters at a different school.
I saw Chris Henderson tweeted that he believes Vanderbilt is making some strong moves in the portal. Does G know that he's now become the JV development coach for all the good programs in NCAA women’s soccer? I’m willing to give odds to anyone who’s willing to wager against my bet that in 2025 Florida will once again not make the SEC tournament let alone the NCAA tournament. Adding a kid that barely played on an acc team that didn’t make the tournament for the first time in a while and had their worst season in a while + a kid that is coming off an ACL + a player who decided to leave a consistently high achieving acc program that made deep runs into the NCAA tournament to come to their four win SEC program = another losing season ahead. Who do you guys think is “winning” the portal so far?
Why are some of the P4 schools still projecting to be significantly above the 28, hoping that it isn't going to go in effect for 2025; waiting to cut kids until May?
What's going on at TCU - how many did they lose to the portal and seems like they are picking some up, too. Plus, their 2025 and 2026 recruiting classes seem awfully large.
Who is G? The Texas A&M coach? It's hard to say how transfers will pan out as there are many factors involved typically. A fair number are coming back from injuries, for one thing, and you don't know how well they've recovered. Then of course there's the question of how well they fit into the new system--same position or new position?, how much they play, the coaching at the new school. And there are those who are jumping up in class from a mid-major program to P4: are they good enough to make the leap? I follow an SEC program that has just picked up 2 transfers from other SEC programs. One had an excellent scoring year as a freshman on a not very good team, but fell off last year, apparently because of various knocks from which she's recovered. If healthy, she should be a potentially significant asset. The other transfer also had an impressive freshman campaign with a good SEC program, was named to the All Freshman team--but for some reason transferred to another SEC school last year, after one solid/good season with her original team. Seemed like an odd move. Did she do it for NIL? I don't know and don't know how much NIL is a thing with women's soccer. (Is it?) Playing in the spring for her new team, she blew out her knee and didn't play at all--and now she has transferred again. Also seems an odd move. Will she fully recover from her knee injury and be the same player she was as a frosh? Who knows. Will her new coach know how to properly use her? I wouldn't count on it as he has makes a lot of questionable lineup decisions. We've all seen transfers come in and provide a major boost to their new teams--see Duke this year--and there are others, a lot, who end up not playing much at their new school or playing but not having quite the impact that they and the coaches had hoped for, for various reasons.
Just curious, what would be the punishment for programs/schools that opt in to revenue sharing, but has a team that is over their roster limit? Is it a fine? Is it forfeited games? Because at some point, if it is just a fine or warning or something small along those lines... we could see schools and teams take the punishment and carry an over limit roster
I would imagine there would be no possibility of playing in the NCAA tournament, maybe conferences disqualify programs from their own tournament. Maybe forfeitures from games too? I agree with you there will need to be something substantial otherwise there wouldn’t be anything stopping a school from doing it.
Would a player that is out for the season due to injury count towards the roster cap? On a mission? Redshirting?
For most, it counts as a redshirt and will not count against the roster cap. But it also depends on when that injury occurred. If it happens mid to late season, that player may be ineligible for a redshirt if they played a certain amount of games.
The coach has to plan for the player's place (and funds) if the expectation is they will play. A redshirt or medical hardship waiver, both just push back the year of eligibility. If you want to play in 25-26, and/or will have athletic aid that year, of course it would count. The next question is - what happens to my place and aid in the next or that extra year, if the player wants to extend that extra year? or 5th year. Some coaches may not want a 5th year. Are the Ivy's still not permitted a 5th year? I think that continued since covid but not sure. Medical waivers are almost always approved though. Gotta plan.
Ivy's permit 5th years but you can't be a grad student. So, typically, players will not enroll in classes in the spring of their 4th year so they can finish their degree in the fall of their 5th season.
a redshirted player will count against a teams roster capacity. also heard if they have male practice players that those will count against the cap as well so those are probably gone
So when does the first player in the 22 class sue the NCAA for the 5th year of eligibility? Probably been the worst effected classes as the previous 2-3 years all got granted 1 year additional due to covid. Which really impacted the 22 class the most.
I have never agreed with the extra Covid year and am happy to see it finally done. They crowned a National Champion in Women's Soccer that year so technically they did not forego a year of soccer. The NCAA does not have its act together so they granted all who were in college the extra year rather than only the ones who did not crown a Natty. Happy things are back to 4 years of eligibility and a single Redshirt; unless you play football and then you can play for god knows how many years.