Tourism destroying the environment

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by CrewDust, Sep 12, 2003.

  1. CrewDust

    CrewDust Member

    May 6, 1999
    Columbus, Ohio
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    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
    USA
    Club:
    SS Lazio Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    What's the point in having an environment if we can't use it?
     
  3. Blitzz Boy

    Blitzz Boy Member

    Apr 4, 2002
    The West Side
    Most of the state I live in only has 3 economically viable uses:

    1) Skiing

    2) Mountain biking

    3) Strip mining

    If #1 and #2 offend anyone's delicate sensibilities; we'll gladly revert to #3. It pays better anyway and we don't have to be nice to Californians.
     
  4. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
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    CA Boca Juniors
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    Argentina
    Not only is tourism destroying the environment, but it is also getting a lot of innocent native girls pregnant. Why are we humans so evil?
     
  5. Emiliano240

    Emiliano240 New Member

    Feb 28, 2000
    Central Illinois
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    Chicago Fire
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    United States
    i think i'll regret this.......but well, it is true.....

    Geez, I'm really going to regret playing devils advocate here... But then, there is a slight point to be made... Which is kinda important.

    Example - Yellowstone - one of the proudest and most magnificent parks in the U.S.…

    It is being over-ran by tourists, by litter; and the constant human interaction with animals is changing the very behavior of the natural inhabitants.

    So I mean it’s cool that this park is so often visited… but if the goal of a national park is to be without the touch of humans, well then this park has failed due to it’s popularity alone.

    Is this good or bad? I dunno, it’s just if I want to go see an unspoiled wilderness apparently Yellowstone isn’t the place.
     
  6. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Gee, maybe for the millions of other species that inhabit this planet that we're determined to destroy?
     
  7. christopher d

    christopher d New Member

    Jun 11, 2002
    Weehawken, NJ
    Damnedest thing happened. I was putting some nails in my wall. Used my cell-phone to get them in there. Now my cellphone is broken, and the insurance won't replace it. They say it's my fault. I mean, really... what's the point of having a cell-phone if you can't use it?
     
  8. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
    USA
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    SS Lazio Roma
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    Italy
    Yeah, we're all "determined to destroy" the planet that we live on.
     
  9. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
    USA
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    SS Lazio Roma
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    Italy
    Wow. That was an incredibly stupid analogy.
     
  10. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    In a "depraved heart" sort of way, yes.
     
  11. Blitzz Boy

    Blitzz Boy Member

    Apr 4, 2002
    The West Side
    Re: i think i'll regret this.......but well, it is true.....

    You'd prefer to?

    1) Give the park back to the miners & ranchers & let them strip mine the place or shoot all the cute animals & run cattle through what is not strip mined?

    2) Pull some of the armed forces out of Iraq & Afghanistan & post them in Madison, West Yellowstone, Cody & Jackson Hole & tell them to shoot anyone who tries to enter?

    Actually, these ideas would go over pretty well with area residents. Strip mining pays pretty well and shooting tourists is, I suspect, a favorite fantasy of some people up there.

    Yes, the Old Faithful area does have the look and feel of the corner of The Strip and Flamingo at about 11 on a Saturday night.

    But the last time I was there; it was 4th of July weekend; 2001; probably the busiest time ever for Yellowstone. I was with my wife who was 5 months pregnant at the time, so we were not hiking very far or fast. We only saw two other people on our hike. I have to imagine that you could get to even more remote and less visited places if you don't have to stop to pee every half hour.
     
  12. tcmahoney

    tcmahoney New Member

    Feb 14, 1999
    Metronatural
    Re: Re: i think i'll regret this.......but well, it is true.....

    Hope you and yours had this book, then.

    Seriously, this debate is nothing new if you've been interested in the outdoors.
     
  13. Blitzz Boy

    Blitzz Boy Member

    Apr 4, 2002
    The West Side
    Thanks, Mahoney!

    Hm, some of those books linked on that page are even more interesting........

    But the trail we were on was very developed. There were "facilities" at the trailhead so we did not need that book.

    But that's the point of my original post....about a 5 minute drive from Old Faithful; on Yellowstone's busiest weekend ever; on one of their most developed trails; there was almost no one there.
     
  14. Emiliano240

    Emiliano240 New Member

    Feb 28, 2000
    Central Illinois
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    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: i think i'll regret this.......but well, it is true.....

    (1) No, umm - (2) No, and LOL... :)

    Was just stating how it's a catch-22...I mean we want people to apprecaite nature, but Yellowstone is so deluged with visitiors that according to park officials this is causing problems... Not much of an issue to me, I mean if anything limit the number of visitors if it's as traumatic as they're saying....

    I'n not debating you, just repeating what's already been said...

    Again, just playing devil's advocate here for lack of anyone else chiming in....
     
  15. DoyleG

    DoyleG Moderator
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    FC Edmonton
    Canada
    Jan 11, 2002
    Victoria, BC
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    FC Edmonton
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    Canada
    We got two huge national parks here in Alberta (Jasper and Banff National Parks) that are real anal when it comes to regulating the environment. Jasper didn't have a city council till a couple of years ago. The same case with Banff.

    In controling population in Banff, rules now dictate you can't live in the town unless you:

    a) Are going to schoolin Banff
    b) You work in Banff
    c) You own a business in Banff

    There have been complaints when ski resorts are expanded to meet the increasing demand. This even occurs when the resort already owns the property and they have the green light for development.
     
  16. Blitzz Boy

    Blitzz Boy Member

    Apr 4, 2002
    The West Side
    That's pretty interesting. So Canada's most conservative province now has a place that has a Residency Permit system like the old Soviet Union or communist China.

    Here's my ideas for Protecting Yellowstone:

    -Raise the admission fee so high that the only Democrats that can afford to go to the park are too busy making movies to visit Yellowstone and no Republicans will want to give that much money to the government.

    -Old Faithful Geyser Presented by Viagra.

    -The LA Galaxy forwards can sponsor some of the inactive geysers. (Get it? There's some rumbling and some hot air; but nothing much ever happens.)

    -Tell the wolves that have been reintroduced to Yellowstone that they are not allowed to eat farm animals on ranches near Yellowstone. They have to eat tourists instead.
     
  17. DoyleG

    DoyleG Moderator
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    FC Edmonton
    Canada
    Jan 11, 2002
    Victoria, BC
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    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    The Banff situation was more created by the federal government. They wanted to prevent and clah with nature (Not unusual to see animals prowling the outer limits of Banff).

    Another was to prevent the town from being turned into another Vail or Aspen. The property values are quite high for the community.
     
  18. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    So buy another phone. And buy a hammer too while you're at it. And get over it.

    Someday humanity will realize that we will need to make sacrifices to save the environment. But the sacrifices will be great and we certainly are not anywhere near that point yet. I don't think it will happen in our generation. I know that I am not ready to make any sacrifices and I wager that neither are you.
     

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